1 00:02:03,429 --> 00:00:43,530 [Music] 2 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:04,149 greetings 3 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:07,680 and salutations friends and welcome back 4 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:10,479 to truth seekers where we explore some 5 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:11,680 of the strangest 6 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,959 and most mysterious stories out there 7 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:16,800 tonight i thought we would talk about 8 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:19,200 one of my favorite videos on the 9 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:21,040 internet somebody asked me recently of 10 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:23,120 all the ufo videos and 11 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:25,840 alien videos and bigfoot videos what's 12 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,040 your favorite video 13 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:30,080 on youtube and i thought about it for a 14 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:31,920 while and i decided that it would have 15 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:32,720 to 16 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:36,000 skinny bob 17 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:40,319 alien footage and related releases 18 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:43,200 now for those that don't know i believe 19 00:02:47,309 --> 00:02:43,519 it 20 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:47,319 began uh april 13 21 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:50,560 2011 someone began 22 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:54,480 uploading some very strange 23 00:03:01,910 --> 00:02:57,920 videos to youtube they looked 24 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:01,920 as if they were historical footage 25 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:05,280 footage from perhaps the 1940s 26 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:08,640 or maybe even 30s based on the train 27 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:10,080 that was shown in the video 28 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:17,190 but is it real 29 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,080 is it really what it looks like which is 30 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:24,560 a video footage of a flying saucer and 31 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:25,840 then video footage 32 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:29,440 of actual alien creatures 33 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:32,159 regardless of whether you believe it is 34 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:32,560 fake 35 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,680 or real i have to say that the person 36 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:37,200 who created this 37 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,360 it's extremely well done whether it's 38 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,280 fake or real 39 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:43,920 it's extremely well done if it's real 40 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:45,519 it's amazing 41 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:48,640 but if it's fake the artistry and 42 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:50,799 attention to detail that went into 43 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:52,319 making this thing 44 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:56,640 is impressive really impressive 45 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:00,560 so i thought uh there's really four 46 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:02,799 clips but the the most famous clip is 47 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,599 the clip with 48 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:06,560 uh the aliens specifically someone 49 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:07,360 somehow 50 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:10,319 the alien got named skinny bob in this 51 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:11,439 uh 52 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,280 and and sort of made the rounds 53 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,439 throughout ufo conspiracy land and 54 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:16,959 everyone was talking about this for 55 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:18,320 quite some time 56 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:19,759 eventually i think the story kind of 57 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:22,079 died out because no one could prove it 58 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:23,199 was true 59 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:25,759 and conversely no one could prove that 60 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:28,479 it was fake 61 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,000 and the originator of the 62 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,040 the originator of the actual video 63 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:37,759 if it was created by for example a 64 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:38,880 puppeteer 65 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:41,680 or a cgi artist or a creature effects 66 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,720 designer 67 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,280 has never come forward to claim credit 68 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:46,960 for his work 69 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:49,759 which is always not really sit well with 70 00:04:54,629 --> 00:04:51,120 me because it's 71 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:54,639 such a viral crazy 72 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:57,440 a lot of attention this thing got it's 73 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:59,199 hard for me to imagine somebody just 74 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:00,880 sitting in the background and 75 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:03,280 not stepping forward and saying yeah you 76 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:04,160 know that 77 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:06,320 those videos that got millions of views 78 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:08,240 i'm the guy who created them and here's 79 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:09,039 how 80 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:12,560 generally with a lot of these videos 81 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:16,160 that's what happens we get to see later 82 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:19,199 how it was created who was involved in 83 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:21,280 the creation of it 84 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:24,400 and usually we get some education into 85 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:25,280 what went into 86 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:28,560 creating this great hoax if it is indeed 87 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:30,160 a hoax 88 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:33,759 now uh i just wanted to mention that 89 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:36,800 a few people sent me this video 90 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:38,560 of the alien when it came out because 91 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,080 they knew that i was uh 92 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:42,880 into puppets and puppetry especially 93 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:44,240 making puppets 94 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:48,479 and puppetry on film um 95 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:50,960 and i you know people like ask me is 96 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:53,680 that do you think it's a puppet and uh 97 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:56,639 i have done pretty extensive work in 98 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:57,360 puppets 99 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,800 on film call it a crazy hobby i don't 100 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:02,000 know why 101 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:03,840 for magic shows i was using these 102 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:06,479 puppets for a long time 103 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:08,080 that were really like modified 104 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:09,680 ventriloquist 105 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,720 puppets but uh we did some different 106 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,400 kind of things that people usually do 107 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,800 with ventriloquism puppets and 108 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,960 i got an education into how to film 109 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,560 puppets how to make them look more 110 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:22,000 realistic 111 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:24,720 i had puppets with moving eyes blinkers 112 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,160 um 113 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:29,520 all the most advanced you know 114 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,919 kind of puppets that can be created we 115 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:32,880 did 116 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:34,720 i wanted them to be as realistic as 117 00:06:39,430 --> 00:06:37,199 possible but 118 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:39,440 from what i know about puppets and the 119 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:41,199 the art the state of the art with 120 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:43,759 puppetry even if you get into 121 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:47,520 uh animatronics and using lots of servos 122 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:48,160 and electric 123 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:51,360 motors and solenoids 124 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:54,479 to move things the level of detail 125 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:57,120 in this video uh i've watched it many 126 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:57,919 many times 127 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:02,160 it the one thing i will say is that the 128 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:04,720 alien shown in this video is not a 129 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:05,599 puppet 130 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:13,589 let's say computer enhanced through cgi 131 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:15,599 effects 132 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:19,199 the blinking in the in the 133 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:22,560 video is way too realistic 134 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:25,039 blinkers on puppets don't look that 135 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:26,319 realistic 136 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:29,360 so uh i guess without further ado i 137 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:30,080 think 138 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,199 without any more delay we should 139 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:36,720 uh we should give the 140 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:39,840 give the video a watch but first i will 141 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,880 check in with the live chat super v fun 142 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:44,800 cat is here 143 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:55,270 and hello yeah genocide says hello to 144 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:59,599 vanessa hello to vanessa thor 145 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:01,440 super be fun cat comments skinny bob 146 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:03,440 looks so similar to crowley's 147 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:06,319 lamb demon alien thing yes i had thought 148 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:07,680 that as well 149 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:10,960 and shout out to kb 150 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:14,560 kb is back for another round of mystery 151 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:14,879 with 152 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:16,960 us here at truth seekers good to see you 153 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:18,160 back here kb 154 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:21,360 nice to see you back and out of mind is 155 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:23,120 here shout out to out of mind who 156 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:26,160 is being very helpful in her moderate 157 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:29,680 in the moderation here to uh 158 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:32,159 provide the twitch link you too can 159 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:33,519 follow us on twitch 160 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,719 planet lupa is here hey everybody kind 161 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:38,399 of very early morning from me 162 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:40,560 to you there in the evening love the 163 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:42,560 show thank you for your 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here 211 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:46,000 in the live chat what your name 212 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:48,320 is and then whatever message you'd like 213 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:49,360 to share 214 00:10:53,509 --> 00:10:52,560 with the audience or for me to read live 215 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:53,519 on air 216 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:55,760 uh and that's how that works it's our 217 00:11:01,190 --> 00:10:57,360 not so super chat 218 00:11:02,150 --> 00:11:01,200 donations until we can do the super chat 219 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:02,160 donation so 220 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:04,000 yeah without any more delay let's just 221 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:06,240 watch this crazy video because 222 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:09,200 this video uh oh it's just one of my 223 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:09,920 favorites 224 00:11:19,509 --> 00:11:14,240 friends here let's uh 225 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:22,150 oh yeah and there's this one i found the 226 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:24,560 title says skinny bob alien footage 227 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:27,440 footage from the 1950s confirmed to be 228 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:28,560 real by 229 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:31,760 rick dodie i'm not sure if rick dodi is 230 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:32,399 a 231 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:57,440 sound on this i don't believe 232 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:01,040 so some type of flying saucer ufo 233 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:03,120 and it's being taken i believe it out of 234 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,710 or footage of a ufo 235 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:20,389 and here we see our first alien 236 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:24,230 maybe a mangled alien 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:13:04,829 and here is skinny bob himself 238 00:13:04,839 --> 00:13:10,870 so 239 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:16,710 and here we see a bunch of them 240 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:22,150 and that my friends is 241 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:24,310 there's four of the skinny bob videos 242 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,000 that my friends is the most 243 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:29,200 famous the most famous one uh because it 244 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,120 shows the actual alien they were 245 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:33,200 they were cut up into four separate 246 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:34,399 videos 247 00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:37,680 somehow on the original channels 248 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:41,519 that uploaded them um 249 00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,320 you know and i thought there's somebody 250 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:46,079 that did an excellent breakdown of 251 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:48,560 of the timeline and i was going to 252 00:13:52,069 --> 00:13:50,079 present the timeline and then 253 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:52,079 uh you know i found this so this would 254 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:53,760 be uh 255 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:56,160 and again uh for that first video i 256 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:57,600 don't think it's copyrighted but 257 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,519 we're still saying fair use fair use uh 258 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,600 it's kind of hard to copyright i guess a 259 00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:04,880 leaked 260 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:08,560 elite top secret 261 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:11,519 video of an alien and a flying saucer i 262 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:11,839 don't 263 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:13,760 think it's copyrighted but fair use fair 264 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:14,959 use and 265 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:18,160 on the next uh clip we're going to play 266 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,680 again i'm going to cite fair use we're 267 00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:21,040 educating the public we're going to be 268 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:22,800 talking about and discussing the next 269 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:24,079 video clip 270 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:27,600 and this is from objects unknown 271 00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:30,160 and it's bill's channel which i have 272 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:30,639 seen 273 00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:33,279 a bunch of times before he's got quite a 274 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:35,920 subscriber base does some good shows 275 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:38,320 he did an excellent presentation on this 276 00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:39,600 skinny bob 277 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:42,399 uh video and the series of videos i'm 278 00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:44,160 specifically interested in in 279 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,959 educating you guys and everyone really 280 00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:47,680 with 281 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:50,240 the timeline of the the history of this 282 00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:51,120 thing so 283 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,199 again we're going to cite fair use and 284 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:57,750 make sure i share the audio because this 285 00:15:03,110 --> 00:15:00,720 guy's definitely talking 286 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:03,120 okay and again we're going to cite fair 287 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:04,000 use for 288 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:05,839 uh using this clip we're going to be 289 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,440 educating in 290 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:09,440 the public and discussing and critiquing 291 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:11,279 the clip using it for educational 292 00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:12,000 purposes 293 00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:15,839 fair use i have this sort of queued up 294 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,399 to when he begins to break down a series 295 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:20,079 of events that 296 00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:22,160 led to these four videos being posted 297 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:23,839 four episode 298 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:27,760 news release basically starting on april 299 00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:32,639 13 2011. it appears to show 300 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:35,759 a video clip package from probably the 301 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:36,959 1940s 302 00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,240 50s 60s apparently what you see 303 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:43,360 is a ufo coming in over a city 304 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,519 and whoever's got the video camera out 305 00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:47,440 appears to be up in the air 306 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:49,360 what you then see is some kind of an 307 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:51,440 actual event 308 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:55,120 crash landing i'm not sure quite sure 309 00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:58,639 you see aliens they're clearly aliens 310 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,279 they don't seem to be any kind of uh 311 00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:03,279 fake aliens right off the bat 312 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:05,199 so you want to you know you get pulled 313 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:07,040 into the story right away 314 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,800 yeah i remember when i first saw this 315 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:11,279 and i got i got sucked right in 316 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:13,279 like oh my god there's a flying saucer 317 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:14,480 it looks like something 318 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:17,360 it looks like a crash or something or a 319 00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:18,800 landing of some sort 320 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:21,839 and then we see the aliens crazy there 321 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:23,360 appears to be some kind of 322 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,240 a recovery of aliens maybe even some 323 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:28,720 kind of medical procedure being done 324 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:30,800 and then it's sort of left just like 325 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:33,040 that you don't know what to think 326 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:35,759 then on may 1st the big video is 327 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,399 released 328 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:38,160 yes so the first video was sort of a 329 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,680 teaser and it's funny to me that there's 330 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,040 only 331 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:43,519 literally a few minutes a few minutes of 332 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:44,720 this footage 333 00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,720 but for some reason whoever uploaded it 334 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:48,959 to youtube chose to upload it in 335 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:51,120 you know 20 second segments or something 336 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,240 like that to really 337 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,560 stretch it out and i guess get people's 338 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,120 anticipation and excitement built 339 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:58,959 i'm not sure but on may 1st we get the 340 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:01,279 second video that dropped to the same 341 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:04,559 youtube channel it is a close-up 342 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:07,679 of the skinny bob creature first of all 343 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,640 what we see 344 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:11,280 what appears to be i don't know what to 345 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:13,439 call it basically it's a it's like a um 346 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,559 an interview with the alien uh he's not 347 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,799 really speaking but he's definitely 348 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:20,319 gesturing to whoever 349 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:23,679 is in in the room with him or her uh 350 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,520 big i just wanted to mention that i 351 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,760 don't know i thought when i watched this 352 00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:29,760 video that he was working some kind of 353 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,679 switches and machinery or something it 354 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,280 looks like he keeps reaching out 355 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,360 and he's looking in something and doing 356 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:37,679 something maybe assembling something 357 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:43,909 and i also wanted to mention from this 358 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,440 angle we could see sort of a close-up 359 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:49,360 there's a few possibilities for what 360 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:50,480 this is 361 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:52,799 and the possibilities are really that 362 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:54,000 it's a puppet 363 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,679 that's the first possibility the second 364 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:57,440 possibility is this is all 365 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,360 computer generated images and effects 366 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:03,200 uh the third possibility that i've heard 367 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:05,520 people mention is that this could be 368 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:12,789 but you're based on this head and 369 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:13,520 everything 370 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,000 that would have to be one hell of a hell 371 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:17,760 of a prosthetic 372 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:21,840 um or maybe a life-like movable mask 373 00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,039 but we don't see the mouth move so 374 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:27,679 uh for all we know it's it's some sort 375 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,559 of 376 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:30,799 latex prosthetic that still allows the 377 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:31,919 wearer to blink 378 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:35,280 that's a possibility uh and of course 379 00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:37,120 the fourth possibility is that it's an 380 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:38,240 alien 381 00:18:43,909 --> 00:18:42,000 who knows cranial head the eyes 382 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:43,919 that classically have been associated 383 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:45,200 with aliens 384 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:46,640 what's really interesting though is that 385 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,480 we hear the sound of the projector 386 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:50,559 playing in the background 387 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:54,000 no uh that's stupid the original videos 388 00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:55,600 which 389 00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:58,960 were posted they had this guy is saying 390 00:19:03,430 --> 00:18:59,840 it's the sound 391 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:03,440 of the video projector like a film 392 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:04,640 projector and no 393 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:07,840 it's not i took apart the audio and 394 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:11,120 i could clearly see loop points 395 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,880 so that means that the audio was added 396 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,720 it was a sound effect of a film 397 00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:18,559 projector that was added 398 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,240 on top of the video which 399 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:24,320 made me sad because then i knew that 400 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,000 this was somehow 401 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,240 at least partially manipulated why would 402 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:30,720 somebody add a film projector 403 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:39,110 so it appears that whoever released this 404 00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:43,160 video and by the way it was released by 405 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,200 ivan0135 no one really knows who 406 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,080 ivan0135 is 407 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,640 he only released or she only released or 408 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,240 they only released 409 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:54,799 four videos this is the second one in 410 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:55,679 the series so 411 00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:59,120 may 1 this appears yeah so 412 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:01,200 the the user that originally uploaded 413 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,559 these on their channel 414 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,880 they only have those videos they never 415 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,480 followed up with more 416 00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,480 nobody ever found out who the uploader 417 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:10,640 was or their real identity 418 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:14,400 so it's it's a great mystery still today 419 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:17,280 and the alien clearly looks to be 420 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:18,880 extremely realistic 421 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:21,039 you see the eyes of blinking in a way 422 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:22,880 that looks like it could well be real 423 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,840 i mean if it's fake whoever faked it 424 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:26,880 went through the pain 425 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:29,679 of basically aging footage or making 426 00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:32,000 footage look like it's really old 427 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,080 has a lot you know sound over an old 428 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:35,919 projector in the background 429 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:39,120 and then apparently an alien with very 430 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,520 very natural things occurring the the 431 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,520 way the skin 432 00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,960 yeah one of the things i noticed is that 433 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:47,039 we see brown movements 434 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,840 up here uh throughout the video as well 435 00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:51,520 as the blinking 436 00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,039 you also it really looks 437 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,679 pretty natural and realistic why would 438 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,280 there be brown movement up here if it 439 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:00,960 was a puppet you probably wouldn't 440 00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:01,600 include 441 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,799 brown movement in a puppet uh cgi 442 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,720 maybe if it was a prosthetic that would 443 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:07,919 be a difficult thing 444 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,799 to you know you need like air pumps and 445 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:11,679 pressure 446 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:14,720 you know maybe hydraulic i don't know to 447 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,360 move around the brows while this alien 448 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:19,200 is looking around 449 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,919 it's a if it's fake it's it's really 450 00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:22,480 well 451 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:28,159 uh appears around the eyes when the 452 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:29,520 blinking is occurring 453 00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:31,120 some people on the internet have pointed 454 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,799 out it looks very realistic 455 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,320 other people pointed out it could be 456 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:36,000 fake let me tell you something if this 457 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,240 is 458 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:39,200 fake it's an extremely extremely good 459 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:39,919 job 460 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,320 and i i compare that to a video that 461 00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:43,679 i'll mention in a minute 462 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:46,159 but i gotta tell you it's an extremely 463 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:46,880 extremely 464 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,520 believable scene yeah and i agree with 465 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:51,200 this gentleman that it's extremely 466 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:52,960 believable 467 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,000 it's probably the best on 468 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:58,480 it's probably the best video of an alien 469 00:22:02,950 --> 00:21:59,520 that i've ever seen 470 00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,960 that was not yet proven to be fake 471 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:05,039 it's been a series of alien videos that 472 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,080 came out that were 473 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,159 later proven to be hoaxes and those did 474 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:09,760 not look this good 475 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:12,320 none of them did this one sort of stands 476 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,280 alone 477 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,000 you see the alien from a profile shot 478 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,600 and then you see the alien some sort of 479 00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,679 like a mug shot or some kind of way the 480 00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,880 military might 481 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,799 you know document the alien the way it 482 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,320 looks full frontal 483 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,000 you know looking at the aliens straight 484 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:28,080 up straight on 485 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,799 so then on may 8th whoever ivan0135 486 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,520 is he puts out or she puts out or they 487 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:37,840 put out some kind of a message to the 488 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,400 internet 489 00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,640 saying hey look you might be critiquing 490 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,400 us basically paraphrasing 491 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:44,480 but you'll never figure this out 492 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:45,440 basically 493 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,840 we yeah the material isn't this is the 494 00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:49,360 message the material is an edited 495 00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,799 compilation of the documents that we 496 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,480 have your opinion 497 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,000 and the conclusion you draw from this 498 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,600 material do not depend on us 499 00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:56,880 maybe you are looking in the wrong 500 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,430 you are the ones who reject this 501 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,880 material and there we see a 502 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:06,320 three-fingered hand 503 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:09,120 which i guess is uh the alien's hand it 504 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,679 looked 505 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,360 like three-fingered in the video they 506 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,440 are you know in control of the material 507 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:14,799 is the implication 508 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,240 uh there is no tv show film 509 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:20,320 any kind of you know entertainment uh 510 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,679 product associated with this 511 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,440 you could really connect to it and 512 00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,200 really puts the yeah and i 513 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,039 that was my original thought too when i 514 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,559 first saw this video i thought that it 515 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:30,480 was pulled from a movie 516 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:33,200 and then manipulated and i have and no 517 00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,039 one has been able to prove that that 518 00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,280 is the case we cannot find this source 519 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:39,200 material anywhere else 520 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:42,880 in uh either fictional material ufo 521 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,000 documentaries there was a pretty famous 522 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:48,559 uh another hoaxed video that was 523 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:49,760 reported to be like 524 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,039 army people grabbing uh aliens from a 525 00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:54,799 crash site and throwing them on a gurney 526 00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:58,000 that was proven to be from the roswell 527 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,120 hollywood movie later and that 528 00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:03,200 really uh made the rounds for a long 529 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,159 time like see 530 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,320 look that's that's the army grabbing 531 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,559 those roswell aliens and it turned out 532 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:10,320 to be just taken from a movie and then 533 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,520 manipulate it 534 00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,080 word out there in more ways you know you 535 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:15,919 guys are being more skeptical than you 536 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,720 need to be 537 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:18,799 this is a real disclosure this is 538 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,840 disclosure 539 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,000 so that's the implication of this of the 540 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,480 three sequences that we've seen so far 541 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:27,919 april 13 may 1 and may 8. 542 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:30,880 and then on may 17th may 17th we get the 543 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:31,360 shots 544 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,200 of the sort of crash i suppose 545 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:38,080 and the multiple alien shots and i have 546 00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:38,960 to say that 547 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:41,520 this looks a little a lot more blurred 548 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,480 less clear 549 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,880 and the aliens when they show multiple 550 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:47,200 aliens seemed a lot less 551 00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,640 detailed um and that of course is 552 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,159 suspect as well how come when you're 553 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,919 showing a single alien there's all this 554 00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,960 incredible 555 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,720 clarity in detail when you're showing 556 00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,320 them multiple aliens 557 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,520 it's grainy it's blurred out and 558 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:03,840 uh it's hard to see the details of the 559 00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,110 there appears to be this incredible 560 00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:13,919 family vacation video that's released 561 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,919 that's right now the story is 562 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:18,080 that the military was involved in some 563 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:18,960 kind of 564 00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:23,600 interaction with these alien beings 565 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:26,640 but apparently in 1961 and apparently 566 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,720 these videos go from or these films go 567 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:30,320 from 1942 568 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,679 to 1961 whatever that means but this 569 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,679 event on this particular last 570 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:38,159 fourth tape uh appears to be what 571 00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,440 they're calling a family vacation 572 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:43,120 and the family vacation involves 573 00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,720 apparently uh 574 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,799 a secret video that was filmed by 575 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,400 military officers 576 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,240 who weren't really allowed to be filming 577 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,240 these aliens apparently they had 578 00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:54,080 secretly had a camera 579 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,720 brought to the scene against the treaty 580 00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:57,919 against the treaty's 581 00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,559 um mandates and basically they filmed 582 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:02,400 these aliens moving around 583 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,679 now look again in this footage the 584 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:07,600 aliens features are very blurry 585 00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,960 very obscured very uh grainy which i 586 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,919 find suspect 587 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,320 again why when we see the single alien 588 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,080 is the footage so good and when we see 589 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:18,320 these multiple aliens walking around 590 00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,520 it gets uh significantly deteriorated 591 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,279 they call it a family vacation maybe 592 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,559 that's a bit of a joke 593 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,720 i don't know but it's very interesting 594 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:28,080 how it kind of 595 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,039 ends on this event where the military 596 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,200 apparently broke the rules 597 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,960 and they had to revise the treaty 598 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,120 according to 599 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,600 one ivan five apparently that there is 600 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:41,360 some sort of a uh you know breaking of 601 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:41,600 the 602 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,360 interactions for all we know 603 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,919 yeah so that's an excellent sort of 604 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,720 breakdown of the history of 605 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:55,919 you know when the videos were posted 606 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,230 i uh was gonna show 607 00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,559 if you'll indulge me for a moment just 608 00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:10,720 to show people 609 00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,960 uh let me see one second 610 00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:22,880 a second i'm gonna have to find this 611 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:24,799 really quickly friends please bear with 612 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:36,549 okay go to my old youtube channel and 613 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,520 pull out 614 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:40,320 a really old video that i produced quite 615 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:41,520 a long time ago but 616 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,760 i i just wanted to show this to show 617 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:48,880 some that i have uh more than 618 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:52,000 some familiarity with puppets and 619 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,630 okay one second 620 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,720 you know a lot of people that are very 621 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:06,480 skeptical of this video have said it's a 622 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:07,279 puppet they're all 623 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,399 they're just puppets and uh i disagree 624 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,640 i know a lot of people that uh work with 625 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:13,840 puppets on film 626 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,720 too besides my own experience with them 627 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:18,799 and 628 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:23,200 uh what can i tell you friends it's 629 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:30,149 it's very difficult it's nearly 630 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:30,880 impossible 631 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,389 to believe that these are these are 632 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,320 puppets in the video 633 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,960 and you know i like to depend on people 634 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,799 who have actual experience when they 635 00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,320 make statements 636 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,159 somebody saying it's a puppet when they 637 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:48,240 don't have any experience with puppet 638 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,200 work especially 639 00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:51,679 creating puppet work on film really 640 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,399 shouldn't be 641 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,960 uh you know putting their mouth in gear 642 00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,120 if they don't have the facts 643 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:00,240 i talked to um 644 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:08,630 well i talked to somebody that's well 645 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,440 known for puppets he worked for a time 646 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:13,120 for kevin smith if you ever saw the 647 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,480 buddy christ statue 648 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:16,399 he created it he's a friend of mine he 649 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,840 does special effects 650 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:20,000 we talked about this video he mentioned 651 00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,600 my own puppet work and he said your 652 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:23,120 puppet works pretty good could you do 653 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,399 that and i said no 654 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,720 and then i said your puppet work is 655 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:28,480 better than mine could you do that and 656 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,120 he said 657 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:32,240 no so it is what it is but i wanted to 658 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,440 just show 659 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:36,159 um i want to show some of my old puppet 660 00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,720 work 661 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,799 just so that people know that when i say 662 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,000 it's not a puppet i 663 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,039 do know something about 664 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,039 uh i definitely know something about 665 00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,039 putting puppets on film 666 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:49,279 this is an old magic video of mine that 667 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,080 was on 668 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,279 mine tv in philadelphia long time ago 669 00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:55,360 there was uh something called mind tv in 670 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,399 philadelphia 671 00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:58,559 public access and i was one of the early 672 00:30:03,430 --> 00:29:59,679 people 673 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:03,440 um doing a show about magic and 674 00:30:11,170 --> 00:30:06,480 all matter of weirdness really 675 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:11,180 uh so let's take a watch of this 676 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,200 [Music] 677 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,640 welcome back to the lost world of magic 678 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:21,360 in this warehouse get away from the rest 679 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,480 of the world 680 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,720 cambium has collected some of the 681 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:27,200 greatest secrets of magic 682 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:30,480 these secrets of magic he has been 683 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,000 selecting them 684 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:35,120 for many many years 685 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:39,360 this search it seems never ends 686 00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:42,399 sometimes when a magician dies 687 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,159 some of their illusions can look here 688 00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,279 some secrets are too important to let 689 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:51,039 just die 690 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:54,080 by keeping them here we keep them 691 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,200 alive and so nearly wait 692 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,159 until the right place and the right time 693 00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:02,640 this is how the magic of the past 694 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:10,870 yeah so just to display i i did a lot of 695 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,399 stuff with puppets on film and uh 696 00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:16,159 got pretty good at it that's just a 697 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,519 that's an actual 698 00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,760 pretty early example i have a lot better 699 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,000 puppet work 700 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,559 but uh i don't i didn't have videos 701 00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:25,679 handy 702 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:27,679 my point is that when people say it's a 703 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,720 puppet go 704 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,480 talk to people who know something about 705 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,000 puppets i don't believe 706 00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,120 it's a puppet most people that know 707 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:37,039 anything about puppets and puppeteering 708 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,440 and 709 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:40,320 especially putting puppets on film would 710 00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,039 disagree 711 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,240 that it is a puppet okay so i'm gonna 712 00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,240 cite fair use for one more 713 00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,640 just one more piece friends one more 714 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,240 piece and that is 715 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:53,200 we have a comment on this video and it's 716 00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:54,480 it's significance 717 00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:57,519 whether it's real or not from nick 718 00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:01,039 pope actually and i thought that he made 719 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:02,720 some great points 720 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:07,840 about this uh about this 721 00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:11,360 series of videos so we're going to cite 722 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,399 fair use 723 00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,120 we're educating the public on these 724 00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:17,120 series of videos called the skinny bob 725 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:18,159 videos 726 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:21,200 we will be discussing what mr pope has 727 00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:21,760 to say 728 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,799 in the following clip this is fair use 729 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,440 it's 730 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,760 the definition of fair use so we're 731 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:30,080 going to cite fair use and use 732 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:40,710 okay one second friends 733 00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,470 alien life does it exist and if so has 734 00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,320 it ever visited earth 735 00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:48,159 these are questions humans have been 736 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,559 hoping to answer for years 737 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,559 the latest claim of proof has appeared 738 00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:55,200 on youtube claiming to be leaked footage 739 00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:56,880 of an extraterrestrial being 740 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,919 interrogated over 50 years ago 741 00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:01,679 we asked nick pope who used to 742 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:03,679 investigate ufos for the ministry of 743 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,640 defense 744 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:07,440 what he thinks of this sensational video 745 00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,559 for those who don't know 746 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,880 nick pope was once the person that was 747 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:12,080 sort of in charge of 748 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:15,200 england's program to study ufos of 749 00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,919 course 750 00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,159 lately i've heard some things that that 751 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,559 may or may not be very accurate but nick 752 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:21,760 pope is a fixture 753 00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,750 and uh you know has done lectures in 754 00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:32,159 the conference circuit for a decade 755 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:33,279 based on his uh 756 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,549 the english equivalent of the department 757 00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,880 of defense 758 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,799 this is one of the better fakes that 759 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,399 i've seen um 760 00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:46,880 looking at the skills of of the the 761 00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,840 filmmaker 762 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,000 i think it's it's a nice piece of work 763 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,399 it's well put together 764 00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,320 the black and white imagery is a nice 765 00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:56,799 touch because it plays into that whole 766 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,840 idea that this 767 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,279 might be something that's been in the 768 00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:01,200 government vaults for a while might even 769 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,840 relate to roswell the holy grail of 770 00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:06,000 ufology 771 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,000 yeah and it's interesting i've mentioned 772 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,240 this before that many hoaxes 773 00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:12,800 sort of tack on to an already believed 774 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:13,440 event 775 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,720 in ufo mythology or lore and certainly 776 00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:19,200 roswell is one of the most famous ufo 777 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:19,839 events 778 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,040 and stories and roswell is generally 779 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,960 believed by most people who believe in 780 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,159 aliens and the government 781 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:28,480 cover up so interesting that they tack 782 00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:29,280 on to 783 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,839 roswell and sort of try to make that 784 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,280 connection 785 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,280 people i think have a number of 786 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,599 different motivations for creating 787 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,800 something like this 788 00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:43,040 and it's clearly an exceptional piece of 789 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,240 work and some 790 00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:47,280 cgi filmmakers actually use something 791 00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:48,079 like this to 792 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,879 showcase their skills yeah that i would 793 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:52,159 agree with however most 794 00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:56,879 cgi artists or filmmakers the time 795 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,640 you know i am not a cgi person but i 796 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:02,240 know enough about cgi 797 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,760 and blender and a lot of 3d rendered 798 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:07,680 animation software that 799 00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:12,800 to do this level of of a cgi creature 800 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,640 would be probably hundreds of hours so 801 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,960 i've always wondered why that person put 802 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:21,440 so much work into this if it is fake and 803 00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,640 never 804 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,640 stood up and came forward to take the 805 00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:26,880 credit for it one of the other reasons 806 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,079 why people are hoax is simply the joy of 807 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,480 putting one over on someone never ever 808 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,599 underestimate 809 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:36,000 the appeal that that has the interesting 810 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,040 thing is this video 811 00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,040 yeah i would say that for many hoaxers 812 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,960 it's kind of a game like see how smart i 813 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,440 am i can fool all these people 814 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:45,599 could be isn't going to change anyone's 815 00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,640 mind 816 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,040 believers will go on believing skeptics 817 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,320 will go on thinking it's a load of 818 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,520 nonsense 819 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:53,440 if anything a film like this is going to 820 00:35:58,109 --> 00:35:54,880 polarize people's 821 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,119 beliefs those who believe in ufos and 822 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,480 extraterrestrials will say this proves 823 00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,920 my point i was right all along 824 00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,599 skeptics are going to say it's such an 825 00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:05,599 obvious fake if that's all you've got 826 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:08,000 just proves it's nonsense yeah and that 827 00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,720 i agree with 828 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:11,119 i think that most ufo believers that 829 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,000 i've talked to 830 00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:14,800 think this video is real people who are 831 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,839 let's just say the true believers 832 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,880 and people who are not believers 833 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,040 in ufos and aliens and the whole 834 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,520 government covered it up 835 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,599 those people generally think that this 836 00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:29,839 is fake so 837 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:33,440 has this moved the debate forward at all 838 00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,280 no and uh again this does not 839 00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:40,079 pass the test of falsifiability meaning 840 00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,560 it can 841 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,359 this can neither be proven to be true 842 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,040 nor proven to be fake 843 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,599 so to me it has very little evidentiary 844 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:49,119 value 845 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:52,160 uh but yet you know it's definitely had 846 00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,880 a cultural 847 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,200 impact and significance especially in 848 00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,640 the ufo community 849 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:59,520 most people are aware of this video and 850 00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,079 uh 851 00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,920 and most people have an opinion on it 852 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,359 whether it is real or 853 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:06,480 fake and i've seen debates rage 854 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:08,800 on like above top secret and avalon 855 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,880 forums and other places that talk about 856 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:11,839 this stuff 857 00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:22,710 a film like this ends up as being not 858 00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:23,040 just 859 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,599 interesting from a cultural and 860 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,440 sociological point of view 861 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,640 but i think it's it's something that um 862 00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:33,920 will end up being used as ammunition 863 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,400 in this ongoing dog fight between the 864 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:38,640 skeptics and the believers 865 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:42,240 yeah exactly so it just becomes 866 00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:45,760 it just becomes fodder for debate on 867 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,079 you know uh on websites you know those 868 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,480 like this just becomes another story for 869 00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:53,920 people to argue about and 870 00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,200 endlessly on ufo twitter or 871 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,400 you know uh 872 00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:02,800 on message forums i've seen people 873 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:10,870 the debate never ends on this video 874 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,040 so where are we at with this 875 00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:17,680 well we're at an impasse because i'd 876 00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:18,560 like to prove 877 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,640 it was fake 878 00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,040 so i can put it in one bin or the other 879 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:26,640 but i can 880 00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:31,119 so this video this series of videos 881 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:35,040 stays in my gray bin maybe it's real 882 00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,160 maybe it's fake maybe someday 883 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,560 the person that created it would step 884 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,240 forward to take credit and we could all 885 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,400 know 886 00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:46,800 that it was fake or that it was real now 887 00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:47,440 i mentioned 888 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:51,920 there's just a few possibilities here uh 889 00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:55,839 that it is a puppet i don't believe that 890 00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:00,000 that it is a child in prosthetics 891 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,599 i'm not sure i believe that based on 892 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,280 looking at this alien 893 00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:04,880 would have to be one hell of a creature 894 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,040 designer prosthetics maker 895 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:09,599 especially to make those brows move when 896 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:10,400 the eyes 897 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:13,520 open and close so i'm not sure that i 898 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:14,240 believe that 899 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,000 the third explanation is it could be 900 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:21,200 a cgi created 901 00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,440 animated creature but that would take 902 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,960 hundreds of hours for somebody to 903 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:26,640 animate this thing and then they'd have 904 00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:27,440 to 905 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,800 uh you know give it that aged film 906 00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,040 black and white treatment and that would 907 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,960 take a lot of computer rendering time 908 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,400 etc 909 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,599 uh so you know if it's a hoax of course 910 00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,280 the last possibility is that it's an 911 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:43,040 alien the other possibility that i 912 00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:44,400 thought about is that it could be a 913 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,200 puppet 914 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:48,079 which was then later manipulated uh 915 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,960 through 916 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,599 digital effects and animation effects 917 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:53,440 you know you could have had a static 918 00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,000 puppet 919 00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:56,800 without any movement in the actual video 920 00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:57,760 footage and then 921 00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,839 the eye movement and brown movement 922 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,760 could have been added 923 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,920 uh through digital effects and computer 924 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,200 animation sort of 925 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:07,520 taking a puppet and enhancing it i've 926 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:08,880 done some things like that 927 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,920 kind of like that puppet piece that you 928 00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:14,160 saw that i played earlier of mine 929 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,880 later i learned that i could take the 930 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,000 footage of the puppet 931 00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,599 and then i could make him blink 932 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:21,920 digitally where i can make his eyebrows 933 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,560 raise 934 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:25,680 or different effects of the face that 935 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,000 the 936 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,720 actual puppet didn't have i could do in 937 00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:29,839 post 938 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,520 with some digital effects software and 939 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:32,960 animation software 940 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:35,760 that's another possibility and of course 941 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:38,800 it's possible that it's a real alien 942 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:42,400 so friends what do you think is this a 943 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:42,880 real 944 00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:46,480 alien or is this a hoax 945 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,599 is this a fake i am going to turn my 946 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,480 completeness well 947 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:53,520 i'm way behind here sorry friends 948 00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:57,119 i'm going to uh turn my total attention 949 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,109 the fact that you can't dismiss it is in 950 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:04,640 itself pretty cool the way the dude 951 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,280 moves just 952 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,960 reeks of real to me yeah i've heard 953 00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,640 people say that the thinness and shape 954 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:10,319 of the body is interesting the skinny 955 00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:11,040 aspect 956 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:14,000 absolutely brian cannot tell over there 957 00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,200 in the twitch chat 958 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:17,040 you know i hope we get some more twitch 959 00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,480 users because 960 00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:20,960 i think brian cannot tell is over there 961 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,359 by himself sometimes but thank you for 962 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,280 helping to get our twitch chat going 963 00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,119 brian cannot tell 964 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,680 there was a long version in an interview 965 00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:32,319 with alien and autopsy photos 966 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,910 rick von himlich splunker says i think 967 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,440 it was created by someone who was not 968 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,440 invested in a topic and he created over 969 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,200 the course of studying a degree in 3d 970 00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:44,800 digital animation 971 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:48,079 could be could be but somebody knew 972 00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,440 at least enough about the roswell aliens 973 00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:53,119 and what they were supposed 974 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,880 to look like to create a pretty 975 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,680 convincing fake if it is fake 976 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,280 i think it's okay to back burner and not 977 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,280 be sure about things to be in a place 978 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,119 where both things could be true however 979 00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:04,480 i need more to believe 980 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,640 yeah i'm i'm obviously i'm 981 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:11,680 i'm more on the side of this is fake 982 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,520 until proof emerges this is supposedly 983 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:17,760 from the 50s 60s right released in the 984 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,480 80s no it was released in 2011 but yeah 985 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:22,560 it's supposed to be from the 40s 986 00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,950 but is that software as old as the 987 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,359 footage uh yeah there was cgi software 988 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:35,440 in 2011 that you could do something like 989 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,400 this with 990 00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:38,160 the computers were much less powerful 991 00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,599 and it would have taken a lot more 992 00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:41,520 rendering time than it would today but 993 00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:44,680 it could have been done in 2011 or 994 00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,550 it is possible that it could have been a 995 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:52,079 rendering for a video game that was in 996 00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,359 production but never made it to 997 00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,119 completion it looks very similar to 998 00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,280 silent hill from the late 1990s 999 00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:59,200 yeah i'll have to look that up rick you 1000 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:01,040 could be right 1001 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,040 yeah amazing it's still amazing footage 1002 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:07,280 though it's one of my favorite videos to 1003 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:08,000 look at 1004 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:11,599 i of all of the ufo and alien videos out 1005 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,680 there this one to me is the best and 1006 00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:15,599 most convincing 1007 00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:28,470 convinced 1008 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,550 who i did not know this the video was 1009 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,400 discussed in the community by several 1010 00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,240 reputable people just prior to its 1011 00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,319 belief release many believe it was a red 1012 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,720 herring to try 1013 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:41,040 to head off some real ones that were 1014 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:42,560 stolen then 1015 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:45,920 could be right it could be that it yeah 1016 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:52,309 the russian providence lens credence 1017 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:53,760 actually they don't seek to cover the 1018 00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:54,240 e.t 1019 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:57,920 thing up well i don't know about that 1020 00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,920 you know russia has its own area of 51 1021 00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,000 and stories of crash 1022 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,920 alien craft that were recovered just 1023 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:05,200 like we do 1024 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,000 so i don't know that they're any honest 1025 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:09,920 more honest with their citizens than we 1026 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,230 i think this way released before 2011. 1027 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,319 william pixley we just played a video 1028 00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,280 earlier 1029 00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,319 that said it was released in 2011. i 1030 00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,520 have notes 1031 00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,280 uh previous notes that said it was 1032 00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:29,599 released in 2011. that was the first 1033 00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:30,560 time that it was seen 1034 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:34,000 in 2011 was it made before then 1035 00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,520 probably it's supposed to be from the 1036 00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,160 1940s or even if somebody was creating a 1037 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,079 hoax it was probably made in 1038 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:42,400 it could have been made anytime but 2009 1039 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:43,760 2010 1040 00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,119 and then uploaded on 2011. 1041 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,240 yeah it came out in 2011 near as i could 1042 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:55,920 tell 1043 00:45:02,710 --> 00:44:59,040 yeah and rick vaughn hitler splunker 1044 00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,720 he concurs it came out 2011 i believe 1045 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,640 don craig's phase is a great one for 1046 00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:06,480 discussion but like steven says 1047 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:09,200 needs to be a no until more information 1048 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:10,880 yeah 1049 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:14,960 suspect you know 1050 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,480 it's just not it's not 1051 00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:21,119 it's not proof of anything because if 1052 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,920 you know if 1053 00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,680 somebody could come forward and say 1054 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,000 here's where the video was taken here 1055 00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:29,200 here's who took the video here's who 1056 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:32,160 i guess stole it from some classified 1057 00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:32,640 vault 1058 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,839 somewhere uh but like most of these 1059 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,119 things we find 1060 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:40,079 that we just don't get the proof or if 1061 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:40,480 you 1062 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,720 know it's some anonymous source or 1063 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,480 somebody like that with a 1064 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:49,680 you know behind a shade with their voice 1065 00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:52,720 you know disguised which isn't 1066 00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,760 a reputable or believable source you 1067 00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:57,440 just never know with these things 1068 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,200 you never know 1069 00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,390 i must be mandela on this because i 1070 00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:08,480 think it was earlier like the mid 90s 1071 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:08,960 you 1072 00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,640 may be can some people 1073 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,040 may be confusing this video with the 1074 00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:16,960 alien interview 1075 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,920 video with victor which was released in 1076 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,920 the 1990s and i did a 1077 00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:24,079 completely total debunk that and that we 1078 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,200 can prove is fake 1079 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:28,160 with really good sources i started on 1080 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:28,720 this stuff 1081 00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:32,560 in 1994. 1082 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:36,000 johnnyvirio i like i like that you call 1083 00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:37,200 it how it is 1084 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,319 thanks john uh yeah 1085 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:43,359 welcome to our live chat john please do 1086 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:44,880 subscribe if you like this kind of 1087 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,240 content if you have not done so already 1088 00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,480 dream c they don't look like welcome to 1089 00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:52,240 the chat room see it's good to see you 1090 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,800 here 1091 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,640 i missed your last few shows you must 1092 00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,640 have been you know you must be a busy 1093 00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,000 guy 1094 00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,839 they don't look like cgi to me if they 1095 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:02,400 are cgi it is better than a lot of cgi 1096 00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:06,079 ic and movies yeah i will agree with you 1097 00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:09,680 if it's cgi it's extremely well done 1098 00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,160 cgi creature what does stewart's 1099 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,040 ferglov think of this i don't know don't 1100 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:18,720 know william pixley maybe you can email 1101 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,119 him and 1102 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,400 let us all know it's let a battle angel 1103 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,720 level cgi for sure if the cgi is ahead 1104 00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:26,400 of its time yeah especially for being 1105 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,839 released in 2011 there's 1106 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,559 here's what i remember about 2011 you 1107 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:33,599 could do 1108 00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,800 really high quality digital renderings 1109 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:40,640 but it took forever like i 1110 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:43,520 used to have a secondary computer that i 1111 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,800 would copy video 1112 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,720 projects over to and it would still go 1113 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,640 for days sometimes like to produce an 1114 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,000 hour and a half 1115 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:53,440 hd video would take a day like 24 hours 1116 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,079 of that thing 1117 00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,760 chugging away and then sometimes the 1118 00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,000 computer would overheat and turn off in 1119 00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,240 the middle of the render 1120 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,319 it was like the stone age for digital 1121 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,559 projects now we have much more powerful 1122 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,720 capable computers 1123 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,800 so yeah it's impressive that he created 1124 00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:10,720 this with the technology of those days 1125 00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,760 if he if somebody indeed did 1126 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,079 going to convention and seminars yes 1127 00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,160 interview an autopsy then this video is 1128 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,000 all in a string 1129 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,040 yeah similar to those but different the 1130 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:25,119 problem is the whole ufo community is 1131 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,240 polluted 1132 00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,400 welcome jasmine emmerich who comments 1133 00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:30,480 the problem is the whole ufo community 1134 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,839 is polluted i often ask myself why 1135 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,839 would what would i consider proof of 1136 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,119 alien visitation 1137 00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:39,520 alien technology and aliens living among 1138 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,400 us 1139 00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:42,480 yeah i want to see the aliens i want to 1140 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:43,760 talk to them 1141 00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,559 i want to interview them uh and if you 1142 00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:48,079 have alien technology 1143 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,280 i want you know as a real and actual 1144 00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:53,200 scientist to look at it and say yeah 1145 00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,160 this is definitely 1146 00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,200 alien technology the the other problem 1147 00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,960 with the ufo community is that people 1148 00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,400 just make statements as if they're 1149 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:02,480 factual like we have alien 1150 00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,720 crash retrieval metals arts parts 1151 00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,559 were thoroughly debunked and if that's 1152 00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:10,240 what ttsa is claiming 1153 00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:12,880 is alien materials that they have it's 1154 00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,200 just ridiculous 1155 00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,119 if they're making money deals based on 1156 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:19,040 arts parts 1157 00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,800 that should be a fraud charge because 1158 00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,720 arch parts have been thoroughly debunked 1159 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,319 even art bell 1160 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,240 told linda molten hale that they were 1161 00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,920 fakes 1162 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:30,000 and that there was nothing extraordinary 1163 00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,599 about the metals 1164 00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,119 but you know people make these 1165 00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,200 statements as if it's factual 1166 00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,960 i guess it's that whole thing like if 1167 00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:39,200 you repeat a lie enough times people 1168 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:46,150 swerd is the word 1169 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,630 he knows the russian et file top to 1170 00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,160 bottom yeah i'd be interested to see 1171 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,240 what he thinks about this pics 1172 00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,160 because yeah he's definitely an expert 1173 00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:56,240 when it comes to 1174 00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,640 program and ufos 1175 00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:02,240 sure he would definitely be considered 1176 00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:08,870 so any questions or comments for me 1177 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:10,839 please put in all 1178 00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,359 caps otherwise friends uh 1179 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,359 it's been a long day and we will 1180 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,040 probably be wrapping things up 1181 00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,040 pretty early tonight i'm sorry for the 1182 00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:20,640 late start we had some 1183 00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:24,559 technical fun issues here and uh 1184 00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:27,280 yeah i was dealing with uh i was hacking 1185 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:28,160 away on this 1186 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:31,440 computer prototype all day and uh 1187 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:40,309 carol utley says i'm afraid howell tends 1188 00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:41,440 to believe a lot 1189 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,160 yeah you know some people are just 1190 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,720 i i i don't understand some of these 1191 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,520 people that 1192 00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,960 go out on the internet and they just 1193 00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,880 believe anything and bring their viewers 1194 00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:53,520 anything 1195 00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:56,720 i don't know jasmine emmerich similarly 1196 00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,680 eric davis 1197 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:59,200 talking about this alleged crash 1198 00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,720 retrieval just because he said so 1199 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,680 doesn't mean it's true 1200 00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:04,079 i need more proof desmond emerick you 1201 00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,440 may be interested to know 1202 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:07,839 that eric davis i'm doing research on 1203 00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,640 him 1204 00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,240 and i'm going to present my findings 1205 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:12,000 soon and i think there's going to be a 1206 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:12,880 lot of 1207 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:15,760 pissed off disappointed people when we 1208 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,559 hear about 1209 00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:18,480 some of the things that have happened in 1210 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:21,440 mr eric dr eric davis's background 1211 00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,480 basically 1212 00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,960 he was panned as a crackpot by the air 1213 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,720 force long time ago 1214 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,800 uh for some projects that he was 1215 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,280 involved in and some bolsterous claims 1216 00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:32,800 that he was making 1217 00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:36,319 uh maybe 20 years ago with regard to 1218 00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:37,280 projects he was 1219 00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:40,800 involved in seems to me that he 1220 00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:43,440 likes to stretch the truth a great deal 1221 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,240 and i 1222 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,880 for one do not trust him any longer as a 1223 00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:47,920 source 1224 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,119 uh that may change we'll see 1225 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,200 and you know again i'm one of those 1226 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,960 people like great you got alien crash 1227 00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,400 retrieval 1228 00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:58,400 let's see it let's see it but we don't 1229 00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,680 see it and how come 1230 00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,440 everybody involved in this new york 1231 00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,720 times thing is 1232 00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,880 either directly or or indirectly 1233 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,720 connected to ttsa 1234 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,400 it's like the new york somebody at the 1235 00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:10,559 new york times is like ttsa's 1236 00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,359 propaganda arm right and helping them 1237 00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,119 get investment money and helping them 1238 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:17,760 get publicity for what they're doing 1239 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:21,359 seems to me like one big money grab 1240 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,960 and again you know we talked about this 1241 00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,319 before but like people 1242 00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,640 citing eric davis as proof that bob 1243 00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,480 lazar is telling the truth is a joke 1244 00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:32,000 because eric davis said that he was a 1245 00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,880 fraud 1246 00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,880 you can't do that but these people are 1247 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,920 doing it it's just 1248 00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,839 they just keep repeating these lies 1249 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:39,839 right and i love how 1250 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,200 the believers are are taking texts 1251 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,440 from the original article which was then 1252 00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,040 castrated and they made all these 1253 00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,440 retractions but people are still 1254 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,160 using lines from the retracted part of 1255 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:53,760 the article they had to back 1256 00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:56,720 things up harry reid said hey i never 1257 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,440 said that 1258 00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,000 how do you run with the story in the new 1259 00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:02,319 york times quoting a senator 1260 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:04,079 and then the senator later comes out and 1261 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,520 says excuse me 1262 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,400 uh i didn't say any of this [\h__\h] about 1263 00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:10,480 off-world vehicles i i didn't say any of 1264 00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,040 this [\h__\h] 1265 00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,800 and then they had to pull that statement 1266 00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,559 out of the article 1267 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,960 and and and people are still quoting 1268 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,040 harry reid is saying that when harry 1269 00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,440 reid himself says excuse me 1270 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,760 i didn't say that i didn't say those 1271 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,760 lines that they attributed to me 1272 00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,359 and posted in this new york times 1273 00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:29,119 article i didn't say that 1274 00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,880 but people on youtube twitter are still 1275 00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,400 running around and 1276 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,839 and i guess the story is going to be 1277 00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:35,680 that harry reid's lying now like he 1278 00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,240 didn't mean to spill the beans 1279 00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,040 it's ridiculous good point it's like 1280 00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,880 ttsa is writing the articles and new 1281 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,720 york times is publishing it 1282 00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,000 unreviewed yeah it appears to me that 1283 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:51,200 how how the hell do you get a look uh 1284 00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:52,559 jasmine emerick 1285 00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:55,760 you're a journalist right more so than 1286 00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,319 me 1287 00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,480 i don't consider myself a journalist but 1288 00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,680 even i 1289 00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:02,000 before quoting someone would double 1290 00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,920 check with them and say excuse me 1291 00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:06,240 i'm going to quote you said this is that 1292 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:07,359 okay 1293 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,400 how the hell on god's green earth 1294 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,800 do you get to the level of being a new 1295 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,400 york times 1296 00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:17,119 journalist a columnist for the new york 1297 00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:19,839 times and you didn't check the quotes 1298 00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,040 before you published an article to 1299 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,480 millions of people it's it's amateur 1300 00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,640 hour clowns use [\h__\h] 1301 00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:30,559 then and they're they have no 1302 00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,990 reemsy would it be implied if i were to 1303 00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:39,760 ask you about the current situation on 1304 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:42,400 the anteater front i have no idea what 1305 00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,559 you guys are talking about over there 1306 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,880 william pixley senator reid didn't say 1307 00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,640 what you were indicating he said there 1308 00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:49,920 is a phenom and we didn't 1309 00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:52,160 know what it is new york time come on 1310 00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,440 pics he 1311 00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,440 said i didn't say what they originally 1312 00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:58,319 said in the article 1313 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,359 that's what he said he said i didn't say 1314 00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:03,200 that 1315 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:17,750 and yeah he did make sort of a 1316 00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,950 a statement 1317 00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:22,319 and now i'm not going to be able to find 1318 00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,670 uh i'm not going to be able to fight 1319 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,520 they definitely made a retraction picks 1320 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:33,440 i'll i'll find it and send it to you off 1321 00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,920 off the air i found a lot of bogus clips 1322 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,520 and videos come from little known 1323 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:41,839 foreign films and projects yep 1324 00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:44,240 welcome paranormal jiggy you may be 1325 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,440 right this could be 1326 00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,480 some little known you know 1327 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:51,280 film about aliens from bosnia or you 1328 00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,000 know 1329 00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:55,280 romania or some little european 1330 00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,920 country or india or someplace that 1331 00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,200 nobody has 1332 00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,599 seen maybe it was like taken from a 1333 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:02,880 b-movie 1334 00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:06,240 foreign film we just don't know he did 1335 00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,839 step back from the 1336 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:09,920 definitive assertion we got a ship don't 1337 00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,960 disagree there yeah well they basically 1338 00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,200 had him saying that we had a spaceship 1339 00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,880 and then they had to pull back and say 1340 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,440 oh he didn't say that because he said he 1341 00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,680 didn't say it 1342 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,280 not a journalist just try to look at 1343 00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:24,880 things realistically agree with you 1344 00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:30,789 brian cannot tell the whole object of 1345 00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,720 this is to discredit the ufo community 1346 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:34,640 and further censor than that it's all 1347 00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:37,520 set up yeah it may be jasmine emerick i 1348 00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:38,240 want to believe 1349 00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:41,119 me too i'm just like fox mulder and i 1350 00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,640 even bought the poster it's over there 1351 00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:44,079 on my door my office 1352 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,599 door every time i walk in and out of 1353 00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:47,680 this office i see that 1354 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:50,640 i want to believe they don't make it 1355 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:51,200 easy 1356 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:54,880 right and it seems like it's easier to 1357 00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:55,520 believe 1358 00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,079 when you live in this in your own 1359 00:57:03,270 --> 00:56:59,760 believing mind 1360 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,280 and your confirmation bias and 1361 00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:05,040 it's like bedtime stories it's 1362 00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,319 comforting right 1363 00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,720 oh yeah those aliens bro they came here 1364 00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,119 they're gonna help the human race 1365 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,480 oh you know they're going to help the 1366 00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:16,880 human race 1367 00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,839 reem c rick von himlik splunker they are 1368 00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,440 very distracted right now by the 1369 00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:23,119 upcoming nominating convention in 1370 00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:24,480 nashville where they will set their 1371 00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:25,200 agenda of 1372 00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:32,549 yes he took issue with the notion there 1373 00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,760 was a ship hardware 1374 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,440 yet because he doesn't know there was 1375 00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,160 hardware nobody knows there's hardware 1376 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,799 we got one guy dr eric davis who 1377 00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,599 was basically called a kook by the u.s 1378 00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,839 air force 20 years before this 1379 00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,760 and we've got the goods on that we'll be 1380 00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,000 sharing it soon 1381 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,799 brad gray is here good day truthers good 1382 00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:54,400 to see you back brad gray 1383 00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,000 always good to see you brad gray says i 1384 00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,559 have the poster as well 1385 00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:02,480 i think we all got that poster at one 1386 00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:04,000 time or another 1387 00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:05,839 rick vaughn hamlet splunk indeed there 1388 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,040 may be enforcing 1389 00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:08,880 important functions to be completed 1390 00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:10,880 without intrusion 1391 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,559 very well could be william pixley they 1392 00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,880 do not make it easy this is by design 1393 00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,400 you mean they don't make it easy to 1394 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,079 believe in this stuff 1395 00:58:26,549 --> 00:58:23,760 i'm not so sure about that but 1396 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,559 uh what doesn't make it easy is that 1397 00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:28,480 that 1398 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:31,599 for every let's let's just do some math 1399 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,160 here 1400 00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,720 and this is just off the top of my head 1401 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:35,599 it's my opinion 1402 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,720 and speculation out of a hundred stories 1403 00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,760 about aliens not let's say about a 1404 00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,240 hundred stories about alien spacecraft 1405 00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,559 and aliens right 1406 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,480 or a hundred people telling stories 1407 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:50,240 about alien spacecraft 1408 00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,440 and aliens how many out of those hundred 1409 00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:55,839 stories can you definitively prove 1410 00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:59,040 as a true story with facts evidence 1411 00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:01,040 and and i mean overwhelming facts and 1412 00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:02,799 evidence to the you know 1413 00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,480 let's say beyond a reasonable doubt 1414 00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:08,720 evidence that it's real how many out of 1415 00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:10,000 100 cases 1416 00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:13,839 would you say because i'd say three 1417 00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:17,599 two maybe one out of a hundred and 1418 00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,000 the problem becomes that you have to 1419 00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:22,160 plow through 100 fake stories to get to 1420 00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,680 one that may be real 1421 00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:26,079 and even those they may be real but you 1422 00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,119 can't prove they're real 1423 00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,440 but you couldn't prove they were fake 1424 00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,440 and that's the rabbit hole that we've 1425 00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:33,359 been going down 1426 00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,400 kid with this stuff 1427 00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,319 the ufo community usually discredits 1428 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,319 itself yeah we've got 1429 00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:42,240 you know we've got people you know like 1430 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,240 wendell stevens who turns out to be a 1431 00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,920 convicted child molester we've got 1432 00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:48,000 people like stan romanek who turns out 1433 00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,599 to be a kiddie porn 1434 00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,319 fan right we've got people like sean 1435 00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,160 david morton who 1436 00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,119 basically stole all of these old 1437 01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:59,359 people's retirement money 1438 01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,480 and spent it all right claiming that he 1439 01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:04,160 was a psychic 1440 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,960 uh we've got i don't know this jan 1441 01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:08,960 harzan he just got popped for trying to 1442 01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:09,839 have sex with 1443 01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:12,559 what he thought was an underage girl and 1444 01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,430 for decades we just want the truth and 1445 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:20,960 you can't handle the truth 1446 01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,480 yeah man it's been a long day i agree 1447 01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:25,839 with you carol 1448 01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:28,480 definitely and jasmine emerick is 1449 01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:35,190 correct they do and don't they want 1450 01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:36,559 there to be a cloud 1451 01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,359 yeah i've often thought that whoever if 1452 01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:41,119 there is a cover-up they want 1453 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,559 to money the waters and 1454 01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,480 i don't know the more i think about all 1455 01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,480 this ufo stuff the more that i think 1456 01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:49,680 that it's 1457 01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:54,160 really um really 1458 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,240 the government putting these some of 1459 01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,160 these stories out there 1460 01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:01,520 to hide the top secret research they're 1461 01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:02,319 really doing 1462 01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:04,240 if people think it's aliens get 1463 01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:05,440 ridiculed 1464 01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,799 for it uh then you might not get to the 1465 01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,160 truth of what they really 1466 01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,559 have which is probably exotic propulsion 1467 01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:14,720 drones and stealth blimps and a lot of 1468 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:17,119 things like that 1469 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:19,200 they control all information getting out 1470 01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:25,109 if you have a real story your opinion is 1471 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:26,880 crazy and life is disrupted so you don't 1472 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,599 want to 1473 01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,200 yeah a lot of people with real stories 1474 01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:31,119 probably don't want to don't want the 1475 01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:35,599 the uh don't want the ridicule 1476 01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,520 i grew up on the lake michigan triangle 1477 01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:39,280 hot spots seeing stuff myself there is 1478 01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,720 definitely something to believe in 1479 01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,240 discernment will hopefully lead us to 1480 01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:43,760 the truth without being fooled 1481 01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,599 conned yeah and that is always the 1482 01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,839 danger 1483 01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:49,839 roswell is a perfect example of a ufo 1484 01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:52,079 story with hundreds of testimony 1485 01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,559 yeah but even that like i was once i 1486 01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,640 read don schmidt's books and i was like 1487 01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,480 this is great don schmidt claims that he 1488 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,000 can tell us who 1489 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,799 retrieved the bodies who loaded them in 1490 01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:04,400 the trucks who loaded the 1491 01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,880 bodies in a crate who flew the bodies to 1492 01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,160 wright patterson 1493 01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:11,119 and he's got names and dates and stories 1494 01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,599 but 1495 01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:14,079 then you get to uh somebody like cal 1496 01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:16,319 course book who picks apart those people 1497 01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:17,280 and their stories 1498 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:20,000 and you are left again not knowing what 1499 01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,119 to believe 1500 01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:23,039 we are not alone full stop on that i 1501 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,190 i would say it's closer to sifting 1502 01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,039 through 500 pieces of junk and finding 1503 01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:32,720 one piece of valuable or useful 1504 01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:34,240 information yeah that's 1505 01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:37,599 that's basically where i'm at bunya is 1506 01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:38,720 here and says hello 1507 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:41,039 everyone welcome back bunya it is good 1508 01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:42,559 to see you here 1509 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,430 just because i can 1510 01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:00,710 there we go winding down here so 1511 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,870 and let's see brad gray says if a ufo 1512 01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:07,920 lands in public 1513 01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:11,039 and there it is then i will believe well 1514 01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:12,480 i saw one myself 1515 01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:15,839 uh when i was a child and i will 1516 01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:18,160 always want to know and always wonder 1517 01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:21,200 what that thing i saw was and that's 1518 01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,039 you know what started me down the rabbit 1519 01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:25,440 hole i wanted to know what it is that i 1520 01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:26,720 saw 1521 01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:31,280 i wanted to know i have to know 1522 01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:33,039 green sea i would not believe in ufos 1523 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:35,200 flying saucers etc if i had not seen one 1524 01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:36,000 myself 1525 01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:37,680 i don't know what it was and i don't 1526 01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:39,680 know if it was an alien craft but it was 1527 01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,920 strange and i never figured it out 1528 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:44,559 yeah i had a similar experience reempsy 1529 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,440 and uh 1530 01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:47,359 i tell the whole story if anybody is 1531 01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,480 interested in my 1532 01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,720 ufo story it's called encounter in the 1533 01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:53,280 forest and it's on my old 1534 01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,230 a truer statement about the ufo field i 1535 01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:04,160 have never seen brian cannot tell who 1536 01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:06,559 says swim through a sewer for a teaspoon 1537 01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:07,839 full of truth 1538 01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:11,359 that is the ufo uh situation 1539 01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:14,160 is in the rickbind hamlet's moon or what 1540 01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,920 multiple video angles yeah we 1541 01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:18,000 moved to a three-camera setup but 1542 01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,520 unfortunately 1543 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:21,680 tonight we're only going to be using i 1544 01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,200 don't know pop that 1545 01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:25,200 this camera does not do well with low 1546 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,400 light 1547 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,280 um so we have a multi-camera set up now 1548 01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:31,280 rick von himmler splunker and that is 1549 01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:32,640 something that you guys 1550 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,319 in the patreon support and uh the people 1551 01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,400 making paypal donations 1552 01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,559 generously gave me a few bucks and i 1553 01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,000 bought a couple of additional 1554 01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:44,559 webcams so that we can do multiple 1555 01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:45,599 camera angles 1556 01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:48,079 looks much better with multiple camera 1557 01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,680 angles 1558 01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:51,440 the filter of what we're given has been 1559 01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:54,160 100 government controlled that paradigm 1560 01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:56,319 is now pretty dark pretty blown apart 1561 01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:58,000 the number of credible people testifying 1562 01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:01,359 to the evidence is overwhelming 1563 01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:04,319 disclosure project alone come on william 1564 01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:05,920 pixley stephen greer 1565 01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:08,799 is not somebody that you can trust cal 1566 01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:10,480 truth once again 1567 01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:13,520 fashionably late as always yes but we 1568 01:05:17,829 --> 01:05:14,240 are 1569 01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:17,839 grace us 1570 01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:20,960 with your wonderful presence here once 1571 01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:21,599 again 1572 01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:26,319 welcome to the show caltruth77 1573 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:27,839 and uh you won't be a woman if you 1574 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:31,760 weren't you know fashionably late right 1575 01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:33,440 jasmine emmerich says cool rheem see 1576 01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:41,029 reamsie talking about his experience 1577 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,720 says jasmine emerick it was a weird 1578 01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,160 orange ball and it was moving in a 1579 01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,680 strange way it was not a plane or 1580 01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:47,039 helicopter or a star 1581 01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:50,559 that is all i know about what i saw 1582 01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:53,599 yeah mine was definitely a metal it was 1583 01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:55,280 it was a craft made of metal i didn't 1584 01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,960 just see a light in the sky i seen this 1585 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:57,920 thing right above 1586 01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:00,960 me at the treetop level uh while i was 1587 01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:06,150 the don craze phase i have to agree with 1588 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,559 you don craig's face stephen greer sucks 1589 01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:10,160 not to be trusted at all 1590 01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:13,200 yeah and uh boy 1591 01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:15,920 i've got some stuff on stephen grier 1592 01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,400 that relates to these wilson documents 1593 01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:19,680 that everybody's getting so 1594 01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:22,319 excited about even though they're fake 1595 01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:23,119 uh 1596 01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:25,280 and that may shed some light on why the 1597 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:26,400 wilson documents 1598 01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,000 cannot be trusted anybody ever noticed 1599 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,559 that we're not allowed to know who 1600 01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,240 bought the documents from edgar 1601 01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,160 mitchell's estate 1602 01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,880 uh friends there may be a reason why 1603 01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,319 nobody wants us to know 1604 01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:42,400 who the original purchaser of those 1605 01:06:54,789 --> 01:06:52,470 okay reem c i do believe that people are 1606 01:07:03,029 --> 01:06:54,799 having experiences thank you for sharing 1607 01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:05,270 don't agree at don craze the woo stuff 1608 01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:07,119 is a bit off-putting 1609 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,950 i think that uh stephen grier's filled 1610 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:14,079 with woo stuff 1611 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,680 william pixley the guy thinks he can 1612 01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:17,920 meditate and call spaceships 1613 01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:20,799 to come visit him that's woo that's a 1614 01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:21,839 lot of woo 1615 01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:24,319 lots of woo steven greer has lots of woo 1616 01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,640 william pixley 1617 01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:30,960 stephen greer is his rick ron hamlet 1618 01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,960 splunker says stephen greer is a stage 1619 01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,640 five creeper not that it has anything to 1620 01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:36,160 do with his work just a casual 1621 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:41,029 green c does have a video jasmine 1622 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:42,480 emmerich yes it is somewhere 1623 01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:45,760 on my channel i you should post the link 1624 01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:46,240 in the 1625 01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:48,319 live chat room see i'd like to see i'd 1626 01:08:02,470 --> 01:07:54,789 reem see i like wu stuff the more woo 1627 01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:05,510 close family friend uh no 1628 01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:08,400 pics i don't think so but time will tell 1629 01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:14,390 in saint croix on a dock a bright red 1630 01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:16,400 light came straight down 500 feet from 1631 01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:17,120 the dock 1632 01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:19,040 dropped six blue lighted balls in the 1633 01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:20,560 ocean and shot straight back 1634 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:29,030 jasmine emmerich i like my ufology with 1635 01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,000 a dash of woo 1636 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:33,359 and without conspiracy yeah 1637 01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:35,120 yeah there's all flavors there's all 1638 01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:36,880 flavors out there for you 1639 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:39,920 so you can you can get the woo 1640 01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,960 or not get the woo you could get the 1641 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,279 the conspiracy side of it the government 1642 01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:47,040 cover-up the men in black 1643 01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:49,839 there's a whole menu of ufo stories out 1644 01:09:03,510 --> 01:08:51,279 there 1645 01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:03,520 so friends yeah i think we're gonna call 1646 01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:05,600 this one a quick one because uh 1647 01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,759 you know this was not a big topic 1648 01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,839 tonight this was just a little one 1649 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,440 so for some of the shows we're not going 1650 01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:13,920 to do the full two hours we'll just go 1651 01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,440 you know until it feels about right 1652 01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:20,159 i don't want to overstay my welcome you 1653 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:21,759 know there's an old saying in show 1654 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:22,319 business 1655 01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:25,520 always leave them wanting more and uh 1656 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:27,679 when you do like a three-hour stream or 1657 01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,440 two-hour stream every day 1658 01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:31,040 maybe some people can't really get 1659 01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,120 caught up and reamsi posts 1660 01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:35,759 his ufo experience video you can hear 1661 01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,719 all about reemsy's ufo experience i will 1662 01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,799 watch that as soon as the show's over 1663 01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:42,880 and maybe reemsy you would be willing to 1664 01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:43,920 come on my show 1665 01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,159 and tell the story and be a guest 1666 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:47,839 because i probably will have lots of 1667 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:49,120 questions for you 1668 01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,510 william pixley says there is woo in this 1669 01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:57,440 reality folks it's why 1670 01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:03,830 cal truth well i'm glad i got to at 1671 01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,440 least say hi to everyone yeah and that's 1672 01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:07,120 what replays are for you can 1673 01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:09,440 uh see the short presentation that i 1674 01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:11,199 gave tonight it was about 40 minutes 1675 01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:12,159 tonight actually 1676 01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:16,880 that's all uh on this skinny bob video 1677 01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:19,760 william pixley 351 subscribers things 1678 01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,040 are moving up nice 1679 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,679 yeah i'm i'm very pleased i'm not 1680 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,440 looking 1681 01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:26,960 i keep telling myself i'm not going to 1682 01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:28,000 look at the numbers i'm not going to 1683 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:29,040 worry about the numbers i'm just going 1684 01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:31,040 to keep doing shows keep doing shows 1685 01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:32,960 trying to do quality shows we've done 1686 01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:34,960 things to improve things here 1687 01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,239 uh the audio is so much better now my 1688 01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:41,199 sincere gratitude and thanks to everyone 1689 01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:43,040 who 1690 01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:46,880 gave a donation because 1691 01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:50,000 i just pulled that money out last week 1692 01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:51,679 and i've been saving up the patreon 1693 01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:53,840 pennies because i know like you know 40 1694 01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:55,120 bucks a month isn't going to cover all 1695 01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:56,560 this equipment so i 1696 01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:59,280 just didn't take it out for a few months 1697 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:00,080 and then 1698 01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:02,800 last week we took uh whatever was there 1699 01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:03,679 out 1700 01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,800 and we got a couple of uh odds and ends 1701 01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,040 we got a brand new microphone that's 1702 01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:11,120 this great condenser microphone that i 1703 01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:11,679 found 1704 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:14,239 that uh i did lots of research to try to 1705 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,719 get 1706 01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,320 the most bang for the buck out of the 1707 01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:18,560 microphone the show sounds very 1708 01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:20,719 so much better now and it's all thanks 1709 01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:23,040 to you guys that have been donating and 1710 01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:24,159 the patreon 1711 01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:27,120 supporters as well uh in fact everything 1712 01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,600 here 1713 01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:30,080 all the webcams the backdrop the lights 1714 01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:31,440 the microphone 1715 01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,719 everything that i'm using with the 1716 01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,239 exception of the computer which was kind 1717 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:36,000 of donated as well 1718 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:39,760 um everything here was provided 1719 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:43,679 for me generously by you supporters so 1720 01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,440 you have my gratitude i definitely have 1721 01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:47,600 an attitude of gratitude every day i 1722 01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:50,000 sit down here to do some work to prepare 1723 01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:51,360 for the shows 1724 01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:54,239 and i smile to myself knowing that 1725 01:12:06,070 --> 01:11:56,000 somebody out there likes what i'm doing 1726 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:07,830 don craigs william pixley have you 1727 01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:10,560 watched the vero beach greer video 1728 01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,800 yeah because don craig's face correct me 1729 01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:14,640 if i'm wrong but it isn't 1730 01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:18,320 the vero beach greer video where they 1731 01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:20,719 show some fireballs up in the sky and 1732 01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:22,080 greer claimed that 1733 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,760 he meditated he he meditated those 1734 01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:27,440 aliens up and got those 1735 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,560 alien spacecraft to communicate right he 1736 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,400 got those alien spacecraft to come and 1737 01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:34,080 visit him and then it turned out 1738 01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:38,159 that there was flare military exercises 1739 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,199 happening 1740 01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:42,000 at the exact same time that greer was 1741 01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:42,800 apparently 1742 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:45,840 calling aliens down bro so i called 1743 01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:47,760 [\h__\h] on stephen grier he's been 1744 01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:49,400 caught so many times he got called this 1745 01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:50,880 anakama 1746 01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:54,560 whatever the fake alien baby alien 1747 01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,520 it turned out to be a human fetus and he 1748 01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:59,280 still won't let that go claiming there's 1749 01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,320 a cover up now 1750 01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,400 and it's really an alien come on man and 1751 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,000 he made millions off of that 1752 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,960 movie and he still keeps going he's been 1753 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:07,920 caught 1754 01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,760 taking pictures of moths claiming that 1755 01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:11,920 they were alien entities that they 1756 01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,910 okay william pixley i get grier has a 1757 01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,920 certain creep factor that said i do not 1758 01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,760 think he's foolcraft i just don't too 1759 01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:25,920 many serious people have testified 1760 01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,709 rick vaughn hamlet splunker does the 1761 01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:34,400 dildos come from the patreon money 1762 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:35,679 unfortunately not 1763 01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,560 that buying a whole bunch of dildos to 1764 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:40,320 fill a big box turns out to be a lot 1765 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,440 more expensive 1766 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,679 than patreon and paypal donations would 1767 01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,679 allow for so i took that out of my own 1768 01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:46,560 pocket 1769 01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,719 try explaining that one to your wife 1770 01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:51,280 honey did you just spend 130 1771 01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:54,320 on dildos yeah 1772 01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:57,280 and i hope i don't have to explain why i 1773 01:14:03,590 --> 01:13:58,800 just bought 130 1774 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,189 okay 1775 01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,870 i think he's exploring the consciousness 1776 01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,440 side in this always kind of opaque 1777 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:13,199 even when he gets caught in lies you 1778 01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:14,960 know he said that he 1779 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:18,239 briefed woolsey who was a department of 1780 01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:18,960 defense 1781 01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,760 person i think he was like somebody in 1782 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,679 the department of defense or a cia 1783 01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,120 person and he claimed he 1784 01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:27,360 briefed that person and then that person 1785 01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:28,960 said i don't know what he's talking 1786 01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:29,600 about 1787 01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:39,189 okay you're right william pixley the 1788 01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:41,040 anaconda is not a fetus 1789 01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:42,719 the bone analysis said it was around 1790 01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:45,440 four years old i misspoke 1791 01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:48,480 it's still human 1792 01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:51,760 they did the dna tests it's human it's a 1793 01:15:02,229 --> 01:14:55,360 human it's a deformed human 1794 01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:03,590 and actually i think there are 1795 01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:05,920 conflicting reports about 1796 01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:09,600 uh how old that 1797 01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:18,790 jeanette krazenko oh my goodness you're 1798 01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:25,430 rick funny looks lunar from your 1799 01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:26,960 personal collection then no 1800 01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,719 rick rotten hamlet splitter i do not 1801 01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,640 have a personal collection of dildos i 1802 01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:32,800 had to acquire the dildos just to do the 1803 01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:34,159 david wilcock 1804 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:43,030 oh yeah he was the head of the cia 1805 01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,800 wolves each yeah of course 1806 01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,880 picks he changed his story no he didn't 1807 01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:48,719 change his story 1808 01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,600 listen go talk to john greenwald from 1809 01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:53,520 the black vault he was working on a show 1810 01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,560 for the history channel 1811 01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:57,199 and he sent a letter to woolsey to 1812 01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,000 verify 1813 01:16:02,470 --> 01:15:59,760 greer's claim that he had been briefed 1814 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,480 about ufos and alien crash retrievals 1815 01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:04,560 by stephen greer the disclosure project 1816 01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:05,840 and woolsey said 1817 01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:08,320 it never happened i was at a social 1818 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,120 event 1819 01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:11,040 i might have been sitting near him at 1820 01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:12,239 this social event 1821 01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:15,040 we didn't talk about any of this stuff 1822 01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:15,520 so 1823 01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:17,360 you know he's fast and loose with the 1824 01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:18,560 facts like he sits 1825 01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:20,960 at he's at some social event and he 1826 01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:22,640 meets woolsey and then all of a sudden 1827 01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:24,880 he's saying he's briefing woolsey 1828 01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:26,640 there's no proof that he briefed woolsey 1829 01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,120 if the guy who's he's saying was briefed 1830 01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:32,719 says no it never happened you can't 1831 01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:34,560 say the guy changed the story he's 1832 01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:36,239 covering it up no 1833 01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:37,360 the same thing with these wilson 1834 01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,630 yeah woolsey wrote an official letter 1835 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:44,320 with other people at the dinner they 1836 01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:44,880 attended 1837 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:47,280 denying debriefing called their dinner 1838 01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:48,000 talk polite 1839 01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,840 conversation they had a dinner 1840 01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,120 conversation 1841 01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,520 william pixley they did not talk about 1842 01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,960 aliens and 1843 01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:57,360 flying saucers but that hasn't stopped 1844 01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,120 stephen grier from cashing in 1845 01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:01,600 saying that he briefed a cia director no 1846 01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,390 okay there are others who attest see 1847 01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:10,719 this is the debate you get into 1848 01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,880 what others what others matter when the 1849 01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:14,400 man himself said no 1850 01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,600 this never happened 1851 01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:19,600 what stephen grier's assistant is going 1852 01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,719 to say it happened 1853 01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,320 steven grier's wife who was at that 1854 01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:24,400 dinner with him is going to say yeah 1855 01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,480 my husband briefed them no no you can't 1856 01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,960 you can't this is the believing mind 1857 01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,960 this is your confirmation bias william 1858 01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:33,760 pixley 1859 01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:36,400 if you're willing to just deny a factual 1860 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:37,360 statement from 1861 01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,760 woolsey who says this never happened 1862 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,440 then i can't help you 1863 01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,440 you get it you're grasping for straws 1864 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:45,360 you want so desperately to believe that 1865 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,600 stephen greer really did brief the cia 1866 01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:49,120 disinformation agent 1867 01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,480 that you're willing to come up with 1868 01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:52,239 these 1869 01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:55,199 explanations that are far-fetched at 1870 01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:56,080 best 1871 01:18:01,510 --> 01:17:59,440 for why woolsey would lie 1872 01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,520 right and and people are doing the same 1873 01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,600 thing with this admiral wilson the 1874 01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,000 admiral wilson guy comes down and says 1875 01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:08,080 this is fiction and people are still 1876 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,040 arguing no 1877 01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:11,199 he's lying of course he's lying it's all 1878 01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:19,270 there's no there there yes 1879 01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:22,000 brian cannot tell saul grier to 1880 01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:23,760 convention years ago he came across 1881 01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,400 as a barnum very cultish with yes men 1882 01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,960 yeah he's the pt barnum of ufology but 1883 01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:31,120 he is also the most financially 1884 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:32,640 successful 1885 01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,520 guy in ufology if you look up some of 1886 01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:36,960 the stuff with his movies 1887 01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:38,960 i don't understand how this works he 1888 01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:40,000 doesn't he does 1889 01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,280 a fundraiser to make the movie gets 1890 01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:46,080 millions of dollars to make the movie 1891 01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:48,719 and then he sells the movie on netflix 1892 01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,440 how does that 1893 01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:51,600 work i don't understand it doesn't cost 1894 01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:53,360 millions of dollars to make a modern 1895 01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,320 documentary 1896 01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,719 at the very best even if you paid a good 1897 01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:57,840 video editor 1898 01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:00,239 you paid for stock footage you paid 1899 01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:01,600 people to be in interviews 1900 01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:03,520 you're talking ten or twenty thousand 1901 01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:05,920 dollars to make a decent 1902 01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:08,560 broadcast quality documentary today 1903 01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:10,239 where does all that money go that he 1904 01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,280 collects 1905 01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:14,000 i don't know someday we're gonna look 1906 01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:23,280 into all that money 1907 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,320 yeah pics we're gonna just agree we are 1908 01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:27,840 going to agree 1909 01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:30,960 to disagree because it's gonna take us 1910 01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:32,080 nowhere you're gonna 1911 01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:34,000 you're gonna say this i'm gonna say that 1912 01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:44,550 i wonder why the government doesn't have 1913 01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:46,400 people like grier wilcock 1914 01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:47,840 up for fraud i guess it's just 1915 01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,000 considered entertainment yeah i guess 1916 01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:52,640 so and several of them i think should 1917 01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,199 have been 1918 01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:55,760 you know stephen grier's entire inner 1919 01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:57,679 circle left him a couple years back over 1920 01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:59,679 greer and money improprieties yeah 1921 01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:00,080 there's 1922 01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:03,280 millions of he's got millions of dollars 1923 01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:06,800 in ufo believers sending him money 1924 01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:08,719 and here's another thing about stephen 1925 01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:10,239 greer that's ridiculous 1926 01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:12,880 he claims to have this ce5 protocol 1927 01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:13,760 which is a way 1928 01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,239 of communicating with aliens and flying 1929 01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,800 saucers and getting them you meditate 1930 01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:20,320 and then the aliens and the flying 1931 01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,800 saucers come and visit you 1932 01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:24,880 friends if that was real it would be one 1933 01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:26,639 of the greatest human discoveries 1934 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:29,679 on earth or 1935 01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,040 you could make an itunes app 1936 01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,120 right you can make it you can make it an 1937 01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:37,199 iphone app and an android app that 1938 01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:38,320 people have to buy 1939 01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:41,040 for twenty dollars to do this it's 1940 01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:42,080 ridiculous 1941 01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:46,080 you if it's real why are you trying to 1942 01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,280 profit from it 1943 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:49,199 shouldn't everybody on earth be able to 1944 01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:50,480 communicate and 1945 01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:53,520 call in those aliens or is he only 1946 01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,990 yeah yeah they owe a debt to greer even 1947 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,760 if he's dripping woo and a bit creepy 1948 01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:05,280 the guy could have to be a raging 1949 01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:07,360 sociopath to stick his head 1950 01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,440 in this news we disagree yeah and we 1951 01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,360 will continue to disagree 1952 01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:12,880 where can i see the stuff you have on 1953 01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:15,520 grier well i have never done a show on 1954 01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:17,120 grier but based on uh 1955 01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:19,040 a lot of things lately i think that's 1956 01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,360 going to be coming up but 1957 01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:23,440 grier is one of those people like the 1958 01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:25,360 the show that we did on bob lazar 1959 01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:28,639 or the show that we did on uh on richard 1960 01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:29,600 dolan where 1961 01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:31,760 you know the guys got millions of 1962 01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:34,000 dollars and i can't go off half cocked 1963 01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,679 without proof of what i will be 1964 01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,639 presenting so 1965 01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:38,480 i'm gonna have to really do a lot of 1966 01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:40,960 research and cover my 1967 01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:44,639 you know cross my t's and dot my eyes 1968 01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:46,000 when it comes to somebody like him 1969 01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:47,679 because i've heard that he throws around 1970 01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:48,320 uh 1971 01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:54,080 we've got to be very careful if we do a 1972 01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,669 grier was great at the national press 1973 01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,520 club event in the late 90s something 1974 01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:03,360 corrupted him since then 1975 01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:09,830 jasmine emery does anyone try to 1976 01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:11,600 meditate to call the aliens i have it 1977 01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:13,280 didn't work yeah me too and it didn't 1978 01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:13,840 work 1979 01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,470 his films are crowdfunded what is wrong 1980 01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:22,719 with that william pixley here's what's 1981 01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:26,159 wrong with that when you crowdfund 1982 01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:28,880 and collect millions of dollars and then 1983 01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:30,800 you create a documentary with those 1984 01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:32,320 millions of dollars 1985 01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,960 that perhaps cost twenty thousand 1986 01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:36,719 dollars in total to make 1987 01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,400 what happens to the rest of that money 1988 01:22:42,149 --> 01:22:40,400 does he just keep all that money 1989 01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:42,159 and he's done this multiple times he 1990 01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:44,320 collected millions to create one of 1991 01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,199 those 1992 01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,520 and then he did you know again like a 20 1993 01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:49,440 000 video 1994 01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,679 okay and then he sold that on netflix 1995 01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:53,520 kept all those millions of dollars and 1996 01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:55,120 then he did another crowd funding and 1997 01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:57,199 collected millions of dollars again or 1998 01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,400 at million at least both times 1999 01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,000 all that money's got to go somewhere 2000 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:04,480 william pixley and it went right in his 2001 01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:07,040 pocket it didn't go into the documentary 2002 01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:08,639 you don't cl how does he collect 2003 01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:10,000 millions of dollars to make a 2004 01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:11,120 documentary 2005 01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,560 ever created if he's going to spend all 2006 01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,080 that money on the documentary 2007 01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:18,719 but he doesn't he spends what everybody 2008 01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:20,000 spends the least amount 2009 01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,920 you can to make it broadcast quality and 2010 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:23,280 really good quality 2011 01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,280 you know transitions and titles and 2012 01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:26,880 music and stuff like that 2013 01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,920 i mean i could be wrong but there's no 2014 01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:31,199 way 2015 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:33,760 maybe maybe maybe and this is a stretch 2016 01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:35,440 he spent a hundred thousand dollars on 2017 01:23:40,229 --> 01:23:37,920 each film and that's if he's hiring 2018 01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:40,239 very expensive video editors producers 2019 01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,159 productions assistant cameramen 2020 01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:44,480 maybe maybe he spent a hundred thousand 2021 01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:45,199 dollars 2022 01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:46,400 what did he do with the other nine 2023 01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:54,950 greer wants to be one with the aliens 2024 01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,110 yeah reem see it i don't know much about 2025 01:24:02,790 --> 01:23:59,040 greer at all i was in early 2026 01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:02,800 you know before he's like a lot of guys 2027 01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:05,199 when i first found him years many years 2028 01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:06,400 ago i was like wow 2029 01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:09,280 a doctor you know and he has got facts 2030 01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:10,960 and evidence but then when you start 2031 01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,639 looking into his so-called facts and 2032 01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:14,480 evidence it turns out to be [\h__\h] 2033 01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,510 bunya i have tried to invoke demons 2034 01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:23,520 jasmine they ignored me 2035 01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:24,960 you never know they could be one in the 2036 01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:27,120 same aliens and demons might be the same 2037 01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,080 thing for all we know 2038 01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:31,920 grier's biggest shortcoming on substance 2039 01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:33,840 is saying that all t e t's are both 2040 01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:36,320 are benevolent yeah i believe that that 2041 01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,880 is 2042 01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:38,880 a very irresponsible statement how do 2043 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,960 you paint with such a broad brush how 2044 01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,880 does he know all ets have been 2045 01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:45,199 benevolent it's like saying all you know 2046 01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:46,639 americans are benevolent 2047 01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:48,320 there's no way there's good and bad in 2048 01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,760 all people and i believe that that would 2049 01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:52,320 be reflected in any alien species 2050 01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:54,800 some alien species may be beneficial 2051 01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,520 maybe 2052 01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:57,600 uh benevolent but there's got to be 2053 01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:59,600 malevolent ones that just go around 2054 01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,520 destroying things and taking whatever 2055 01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:03,280 they want resource wise from other 2056 01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:04,000 species 2057 01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:09,510 what about the movie phenomenon when 2058 01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:11,440 does that come out 2059 01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,590 i like your tenacity debate is good yeah 2060 01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,440 grier's time skill and talent are being 2061 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:23,199 mismanaged she would be a better 2062 01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:26,000 asset back in the er yeah i believe that 2063 01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,679 agreed rick 2064 01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:29,199 let's see you're correct for arguments 2065 01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:30,960 purposes ask him to address your 2066 01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:33,679 search he likes to do interviews you 2067 01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:34,000 know 2068 01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:36,639 listen i said this i think you said you 2069 01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:38,239 know somebody that could get to him and 2070 01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:39,840 see if i can get an interview he's not 2071 01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:41,280 going to do an interview with me 2072 01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:42,639 he's not going to do an interview and 2073 01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:44,480 he's especially not going to do an 2074 01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:46,480 interview if he knows that i've got all 2075 01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:47,440 this proof 2076 01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:49,199 that he's been faking and fraud and 2077 01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:50,719 stuff for 2078 01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,719 years now he's not going to want to do 2079 01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,000 an interview with me 2080 01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:56,400 he only does softball interviews go 2081 01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,159 check i've never 2082 01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:01,040 one time the only person that ever and 2083 01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,320 this is a funny story 2084 01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:05,040 you guys can look this up the only time 2085 01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,719 that somebody's been really pushy with 2086 01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,280 him it was carrie cassidy 2087 01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:11,360 and carrie cassidy was basically yelling 2088 01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:13,360 at him for claiming that all 2089 01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,760 aliens were benevolent and telling him 2090 01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:17,199 that he was irresponsible 2091 01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:20,560 and it's a funny interview but yeah uh 2092 01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,880 he does only does softball interviews he 2093 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:24,880 will not come on a show like mine where 2094 01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:26,560 we're gonna ask hard-hitting questions 2095 01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:28,000 and actually ask him 2096 01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:31,360 you know important you know 2097 01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:33,760 listen i i think that's a valid question 2098 01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,600 like how much did you really spend on 2099 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:37,440 these documentaries that you collected a 2100 01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:39,120 million i believe it's like a million 2101 01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,360 dollars each he crowdfunded each he got 2102 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:43,040 a million dollars to create each of the 2103 01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:44,320 movies 2104 01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,400 and you know then he goes on and profits 2105 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:50,639 more by selling the movie to netflix 2106 01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:51,199 right 2107 01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,800 i think how it works is that the people 2108 01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:55,040 at crowdfunding get a free copy 2109 01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:57,199 but everybody else you know you gotta 2110 01:27:02,550 --> 01:26:58,800 pay for netflix or hulu 2111 01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,560 to get to watch his stuff i don't know 2112 01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:04,960 and i just wanted to say that the latest 2113 01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:06,239 movie of his 2114 01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:08,719 it's the first sentence the narrator 2115 01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:11,280 says i don't recall offhand is a lie 2116 01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:13,120 but it was something like the government 2117 01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:15,520 has admitted that aliens are visiting us 2118 01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:17,360 the government never admitted that 2119 01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:20,480 and for him to start the movie on a lie 2120 01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:23,840 speaks volumes about the credibility of 2121 01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:26,320 the rest of the information in the dvd 2122 01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,440 or the movie 2123 01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,920 the first sentence opens with a complete 2124 01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:32,080 and totally inaccurate 2125 01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:36,080 factually inaccurate statement that 2126 01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:38,560 aliens the government has admitted that 2127 01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:39,280 aliens 2128 01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:41,840 have visited us no show me where the 2129 01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,440 government admitted that it's never 2130 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:45,120 happened how do you open a movie with 2131 01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:45,520 that 2132 01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,669 so the reason i've asked i watch all 2133 01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:53,199 career stuff it's all very convincing 2134 01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,880 especially the false flag stuff a lot of 2135 01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:56,400 this stuff makes sense to me 2136 01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:58,159 but i'm here to learn and be skeptical 2137 01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,000 yes kell truth i believe that 2138 01:28:03,189 --> 01:28:02,639 uh yeah he talks about false flag events 2139 01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:03,199 because 2140 01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:05,679 you know what false flag events happen 2141 01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:08,320 he he basically throws in some factually 2142 01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:08,960 accurate 2143 01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,159 historical you know historically 2144 01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,320 significant points to try to prove the 2145 01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:16,080 rest of his points which are all 2146 01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:18,480 bunco we're gonna do you know what i'd 2147 01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:20,239 commit to it right now i'm gonna commit 2148 01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:21,280 to it right now 2149 01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,120 we're gonna do we did the dirt on 2150 01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:24,960 richard dolan let's be fair 2151 01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:28,239 we'll do the dirt on stephen grier uh 2152 01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:31,280 i got a bunch i've got three folders of 2153 01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,639 stuff on stephen greer 2154 01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:33,920 i was going to do a show on him on the 2155 01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:40,310 yes a documentary that cost one million 2156 01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:50,229 there are over a thousand people with 2157 01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,679 serious credentials that have stood up 2158 01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:52,960 to tell their stories and demand the 2159 01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,880 government comes clean 2160 01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:57,280 you may be right you know i really 2161 01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:58,719 thought that that disclosure 2162 01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:01,520 uh event that he held in 2001 was going 2163 01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,040 to take legs 2164 01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:05,520 uh he claims that 911 happened right 2165 01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,159 after that 2166 01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:07,920 and just took the wind out of the sales 2167 01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,360 of that thing and 2168 01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,760 for all i know he's right but seems like 2169 01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:13,199 a convenient excuse 2170 01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:15,440 he's been taking people's money for 2171 01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,880 years promising he's going to bring 2172 01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:18,639 about disclosure he's one of the 2173 01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:21,760 ufo messiahs you know there's a few of 2174 01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:22,320 them 2175 01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,320 there's grant cameron talks about this 2176 01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:25,760 and it's an excellent point that there 2177 01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,679 are these ufo messiahs there are people 2178 01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,280 like 2179 01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:32,159 stephen greer who think it's their place 2180 01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:33,440 in the world 2181 01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:34,400 that they're going to bring about 2182 01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:37,520 disclosure right 2183 01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:41,120 we have people like tom delong from tcsa 2184 01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:42,880 he's another one of the ufo messiahs 2185 01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:45,360 he's going to bring about disclosure 2186 01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:48,000 uh there's a lot of ufo messiahs running 2187 01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:49,280 around promising they're going to bring 2188 01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:50,000 disclosure 2189 01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:52,239 and they're all collecting money all of 2190 01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:53,840 them every single one of them 2191 01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,880 all of them and you know one of them 2192 01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:58,080 that i used to really have a lot of 2193 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:01,040 respect for that i've been 2194 01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:04,400 kind of very leery of lately 2195 01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,560 right is steven bassett he's another one 2196 01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:08,560 of the ufo messiahs he's going to bring 2197 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:09,840 about disclosure 2198 01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:12,000 and you know i liked a lot of what he 2199 01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:13,760 talked about and i got to interview him 2200 01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:14,239 once 2201 01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,560 and what happened was he gave a great 2202 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:18,400 interview and i was like this is a great 2203 01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:19,360 interview 2204 01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:23,440 did this big pitch begging for money 2205 01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,280 so that he could bring us disclosure and 2206 01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:27,199 that killed it for me it killed it for 2207 01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:27,920 me 2208 01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:30,639 and yeah look i guess maybe he does good 2209 01:30:32,950 --> 01:30:31,120 work 2210 01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:32,960 i don't know exactly what he does but he 2211 01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:34,719 goes to washington and tries to talk to 2212 01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:36,080 senators and 2213 01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:37,920 and congress people and push the 2214 01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:39,920 disclosure thing 2215 01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,320 but and i guess yeah he's got to pay for 2216 01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:44,159 his expenses but it just turned me off 2217 01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:45,920 that he did this huge pitch like if i 2218 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:47,760 could get ten thousand dollars 2219 01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,080 i could spend i don't know if he was 2220 01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:52,239 asking for ten thousand dollars maybe 2221 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:54,159 uh but his point was if he could get you 2222 01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,320 know a bunch of thousands of dollars he 2223 01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:57,760 could go to washington again 2224 01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:59,920 and really push the issue and really and 2225 01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:01,280 really move the dial 2226 01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:04,159 and all these guys promising disclosure 2227 01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:04,400 are 2228 01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:07,280 all collecting money every single one of 2229 01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:08,159 them 2230 01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,390 yeah i agree with you i guess bassett is 2231 01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:16,719 trying to be the ufo lobbyist of record 2232 01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:17,760 he's got to eat 2233 01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:21,760 yeah well or he could get a day job and 2234 01:31:24,629 --> 01:31:22,639 do that 2235 01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:24,639 part-time if he feels that passionate 2236 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:30,239 about it 2237 01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:32,080 i've never heard that kell truth i'm 2238 01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:33,920 gonna have to look this story up greer 2239 01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:35,360 said the phoenix lights happened because 2240 01:31:39,990 --> 01:31:37,199 he was in phoenix that night 2241 01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:40,000 and it was a ce5 that created that event 2242 01:31:43,669 --> 01:31:41,679 yeah that's 2243 01:31:45,110 --> 01:31:43,679 also what magicians do when something 2244 01:31:47,350 --> 01:31:45,120 happens you take the credit 2245 01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:47,360 right kind of like those [\h__\h] over 2246 01:31:51,669 --> 01:31:48,480 there in australia 2247 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:51,679 remember that like wow if we got a lot 2248 01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,000 of rain that could put the fires out 2249 01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:55,840 and we should call up the rain and then 2250 01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:58,320 rains came and some idiots 2251 01:32:01,430 --> 01:32:00,960 took credit for you know bringing the 2252 01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:01,440 rain 2253 01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:03,360 and and putting out the australian 2254 01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:09,430 yes jasmine emerick makes an excellent 2255 01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:11,360 point i love the way their disclosure is 2256 01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:12,000 behind pay 2257 01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:14,880 walls it's like selling jesus christ 2258 01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:16,239 message oh wait 2259 01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:19,600 yeah it's a lot like religion right 2260 01:32:24,709 --> 01:32:21,679 yeah and it's funny that you mentioned 2261 01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:24,719 uh showing jesus christ message because 2262 01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:26,400 i was desmond emerick i was trying to 2263 01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:27,920 think of nice gifts 2264 01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:29,920 uh little gifts that i could give to 2265 01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:31,600 people that are making donations and i 2266 01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:33,360 have a friend that does sort of import 2267 01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:34,320 export and he 2268 01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:36,080 found me a bunch of different stuff and 2269 01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:38,239 one of them one of those gifts 2270 01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:40,960 i think you know in the next week or two 2271 01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:42,800 we're going to start offering some gifts 2272 01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:45,840 if you give a paypal donation and one of 2273 01:32:50,470 --> 01:32:47,120 those things is going to be 2274 01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:50,480 these really nice wooden rosaries i uh 2275 01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:53,840 i always thought it was i always thought 2276 01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:54,239 it's 2277 01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:56,159 like weird that they give you something 2278 01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,679 that's supposed to be holy 2279 01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:00,239 like a rosary and it's made out of 2280 01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:01,600 plastic 2281 01:33:05,910 --> 01:33:04,239 you know like i guess does it still work 2282 01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:05,920 can you still pray the rosary with it 2283 01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:07,760 yeah but it seems funny to me that this 2284 01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:08,960 is supposed to be a sacred 2285 01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:12,159 object and it's made out of plastic so 2286 01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:13,920 uh anyway we have these 2287 01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:15,920 really really nice really beautiful 2288 01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:17,520 wooden roses 2289 01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:20,480 on the way and those will be uh offered 2290 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:21,280 for 2291 01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:23,520 a gift that i could give back to some of 2292 01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:24,639 my viewers 2293 01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:31,030 william pixley the phoenix lights are an 2294 01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:32,239 amazing event 2295 01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:35,679 yes they are yeah nice jazz memory says 2296 01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:36,560 yeah i know 2297 01:33:40,149 --> 01:33:39,280 we got a bunch of other little things 2298 01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:40,159 just to 2299 01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:41,840 just so that i you know if you give a 2300 01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:43,520 donation like 2301 01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:45,040 i guess for the rosaries like if you 2302 01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:47,360 give a 20 donation then 2303 01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:49,360 that week i'll mail you one of these 2304 01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:56,149 i've been getting back into some sort of 2305 01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,360 spiritual practice 2306 01:34:01,030 --> 01:34:00,000 i should also mention that i've been 2307 01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:01,040 trying 2308 01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:03,600 c.w chatter's commonwealth chanting and 2309 01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:05,040 i'm gonna do a whole show 2310 01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:08,480 on his commonwealth chanting uh because 2311 01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:09,760 i think it's interesting 2312 01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:12,719 and do i did i find it beneficial so far 2313 01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:14,080 i think it is beneficial 2314 01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,040 it forces me uh see every channers 2315 01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:19,120 commonwealth chances spiritual texts 2316 01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:24,000 every day and if left to my own 2317 01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:27,040 sort of you know devices i won't do that 2318 01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:29,760 i won't spend a few minutes every day 2319 01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:31,600 reading spiritual texts 2320 01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,639 i just won't do it uh and this 2321 01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:36,480 system that he had developed sort of 2322 01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:38,000 forces me 2323 01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:41,360 take the time to you know 2324 01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:43,440 take the time give some attention to 2325 01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:45,679 your spirituality every day and read 2326 01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:47,600 some spiritual texts i think it's 2327 01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:55,750 william pixley that's a good promotion 2328 01:34:59,910 --> 01:34:57,520 stephen yeah and i thought 2329 01:35:01,350 --> 01:34:59,920 just so we could be all inclusive uh we 2330 01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:01,360 could have prayer beads from other 2331 01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:02,800 religions as well 2332 01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,480 and people could tell me you know if 2333 01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,400 they want the jewish prayer beads if 2334 01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:08,719 they want the rosary or they want 2335 01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:12,320 you know there's there's many different 2336 01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:15,520 versions of prayer beads and i like 2337 01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:19,040 all of them carol utley i'd like a 2338 01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:19,679 t-shirt 2339 01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:21,600 truth seekers yeah i'm gonna work on 2340 01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:24,560 that there is a way that in the uh 2341 01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:27,679 in the youtube channel itself 2342 01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,400 you could very easily i'm told from a 2343 01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:31,679 friend that does it 2344 01:35:35,350 --> 01:35:34,000 there's a company that will sort of drop 2345 01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:35,360 ship everything for you 2346 01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:37,119 and you get a cut of it and they get a 2347 01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:38,880 cut of it i'm going to set that up and 2348 01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:39,520 everybody 2349 01:35:43,109 --> 01:35:42,239 who wants a truth seeker sure can order 2350 01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:43,119 one soon 2351 01:35:46,629 --> 01:35:45,920 i gotta make it a point to get that done 2352 01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:46,639 because 2353 01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:48,880 yeah then i could be like richard dolan 2354 01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:50,080 and you two could buy 2355 01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:53,440 uh stephen campion truth seekers coffee 2356 01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:55,119 mug 2357 01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:57,679 whatever we have to do and also i just 2358 01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:58,719 wanted to ask 2359 01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:02,000 if anybody is interested in this i know 2360 01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:03,760 somebody who produces 2361 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:07,119 the best organic real 2362 01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:10,159 raw honey uh that you'll ever have in 2363 01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:10,880 your life 2364 01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:14,480 it is amazing um they do it by planting 2365 01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:15,679 wildflowers 2366 01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:18,800 all around the um around the hive setup 2367 01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:20,239 that they have 2368 01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:23,520 and uh you know 2369 01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:25,440 i'm looking for something to sell to 2370 01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:26,719 help support the show 2371 01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:29,119 if you guys think that selling honey 2372 01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:30,000 would be something 2373 01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:32,880 you know like it's a little weird yeah 2374 01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:34,480 but i think that a lot of people who 2375 01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:35,520 listen to my show 2376 01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:38,719 maybe health conscious and into 2377 01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:41,920 organic things like raw honey it's just 2378 01:36:45,830 --> 01:36:44,159 awesome i've been having it in my tea 2379 01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:45,840 and i use it to make 2380 01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:50,159 uh my favorite uh side dish for dinners 2381 01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:52,880 is honey glazed carrots and that's super 2382 01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:54,639 simple to do you throw these carrots in 2383 01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,440 a pot 2384 01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:57,520 with some water you boil them you drain 2385 01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:59,679 it and then it's just a teaspoon of this 2386 01:37:02,950 --> 01:37:00,239 honey 2387 01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:02,960 and a couple of pats of butter mix it up 2388 01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:04,840 it's 2389 01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:11,270 jasmine emerick my religious text of 2390 01:37:16,550 --> 01:37:14,320 late has been gnostic 2391 01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:16,560 carol utley remember mood rings hell 2392 01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,000 yeah i'm gonna get us some move rings 2393 01:37:23,109 --> 01:37:22,080 excellent suggestion carol hutley maybe 2394 01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:23,119 for like a 10 2395 01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:25,840 donation you get i'll mail you a mood 2396 01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:26,400 ring 2397 01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:34,229 food seekers branded harmonicas we're 2398 01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:35,440 going to turn into kiss we're going to 2399 01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:36,960 have truth seekers 2400 01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:45,990 sell your butt off just make sure how 2401 01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:47,040 you do so 2402 01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:50,159 trash ux not sure 2403 01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:52,080 oh where we got one vote for the honey 2404 01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:54,159 my mom loves honey but you should 2405 01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:56,800 sell the cbd oil too i'd buy both you 2406 01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:58,080 know we're gonna get a storefront 2407 01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:00,719 together because 2408 01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:04,800 listen uh the covet thing destroyed my 2409 01:38:09,270 --> 01:38:05,360 business 2410 01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:09,280 and uh it's i'm not sure if it's sad but 2411 01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:12,719 really this is one of the major this is 2412 01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,800 one of the things that i have right now 2413 01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,480 is a show you know 2414 01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:19,119 and everybody else has all these 2415 01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:21,440 commercials and they sell this crap 2416 01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,480 but here's what i'm gonna say 2417 01:38:28,830 --> 01:38:26,880 manuka honey is good from new zealand 2418 01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:28,840 here's what i'm gonna say about selling 2419 01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:30,480 products 2420 01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,600 you've got to pay the bills right so if 2421 01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:35,920 selling some products or offering free 2422 01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:36,800 gifts to get 2423 01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,800 different size donations i think we're 2424 01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:40,560 going to do some things like that too 2425 01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:41,760 so some of the things are going to be 2426 01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:44,000 like if you give a 20 donation 2427 01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:45,520 i'm gonna mail you one of these really 2428 01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:47,440 nice handmade wooden 2429 01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,520 uh wooden rosaries uh 2430 01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,280 but we may have commercials and sell 2431 01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:55,600 things like the honey or the cbd oil 2432 01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:57,119 that's a good suggestion 2433 01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,360 maybe the mood ring will be another gift 2434 01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:01,520 for making a donation 2435 01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:05,040 but here's the thing i i gotta 2436 01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:11,430 on my previous show i did not get the 2437 01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:12,239 right to 2438 01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:14,400 say no to a commercial does that make 2439 01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:15,280 sense 2440 01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:17,679 so in other words if the distributor of 2441 01:39:21,669 --> 01:39:18,880 the show 2442 01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:21,679 said hey uh we're going to have you 2443 01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:22,639 hawking 2444 01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:29,360 colon cleanse constantly i had 2445 01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,480 no absolutely no right to say no i don't 2446 01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:34,400 want somebody advertising 2447 01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:37,119 talking about cleanse your colon get t 2448 01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:37,840 you know 2449 01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:40,000 i hated that every time i heard it i 2450 01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:42,000 cringed i'm like oh my god people were 2451 01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:42,960 buying 2452 01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:46,719 diuretics a diuretic t 2453 01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:49,920 to cleanse their colon from my show 2454 01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:53,600 i hated that and but i didn't have the 2455 01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:54,639 right to say no 2456 01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:57,199 right because this distributor has to 2457 01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,679 get 2458 01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:59,760 a few bucks for doing the distribution 2459 01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:01,280 whatever 2460 01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:04,400 i refuse to have any product here that i 2461 01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:04,960 will not 2462 01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:08,000 personally endorse or use myself 2463 01:40:11,830 --> 01:40:10,000 and that's a good thing so at least 2464 01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:11,840 being independent now i have 2465 01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:14,400 control of that and nobody can force me 2466 01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:15,199 to 2467 01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:18,639 [\h__\h] tea 2468 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,719 i'm sorry i don't want to sell tea that 2469 01:40:24,070 --> 01:40:22,400 makes you [\h__\h] like crazy 2470 01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,080 i just don't want to do it i'm not going 2471 01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:26,320 to do it so we may start selling some 2472 01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,679 products here but 2473 01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:28,880 they're not going to be anything i don't 2474 01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:35,030 oh jonah side with another excellent 2475 01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:36,560 suggestion 2476 01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:39,440 bandanas but of course truth seekers 2477 01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:40,560 dildos 2478 01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:42,880 man now i gotta go research how do you 2479 01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:45,119 custom print on top of dildos because we 2480 01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:46,719 could put the truth seekers logo right 2481 01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:49,280 down the dildo joan aside 2482 01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:59,430 oh my goodness john 2483 01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:01,590 sians are possibly authors of the dead 2484 01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:04,560 sea scrolls 2485 01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,239 william pixley sir you're going to sell 2486 01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:08,880 cheese no but 2487 01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:11,040 i'm going to go talk to the honey girl 2488 01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:12,000 and uh 2489 01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,679 here's what i think the honey is going 2490 01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:15,760 to work like this i think that i'm going 2491 01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:16,880 to take the orders 2492 01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:18,880 by my paypal and then forward them to 2493 01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:21,360 her and she's just gonna drop ship it to 2494 01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:22,000 you 2495 01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:24,639 because i'm not sure how to store all 2496 01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:25,360 that honey 2497 01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:28,639 and like you know like and i got kids 2498 01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:29,119 man 2499 01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:31,440 if my kids get a hold of like a bunch of 2500 01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:32,400 jars of honey 2501 01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,880 it's not going to go well so but we're 2502 01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:36,639 going to work that out 2503 01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,440 bandanas are a decent idea reem see i 2504 01:41:44,709 --> 01:41:41,600 like tea i like herbal tea 2505 01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:44,719 reemsy i don't like [\h__\h] tea the colon 2506 01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,320 cleanse tea and i hated their 2507 01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:48,480 commercials because it was always like 2508 01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,880 clench a colon change your life you know 2509 01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:52,320 it was such 2510 01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:58,709 and i had to listen to it hundreds of 2511 01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:01,360 times because you know editing like okay 2512 01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:02,960 put the commercials in 2513 01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:05,840 and then play oh god to get the t [\h__\h] 2514 01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:06,480 you know 2515 01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:08,480 yeah i have no problem with the cbd oil 2516 01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:10,159 ones but uh 2517 01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:13,600 i didn't like to get the tea sleepy 2518 01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:15,840 tea with honey yeah i like that 2519 01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:18,239 sleepytime tea this celestial seasons 2520 01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:21,280 sleepytime tea that stuff's just 2521 01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:22,480 delicious and it's 2522 01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,239 kind of something about herbal tea it's 2523 01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:26,960 like comforting right 2524 01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:29,360 yeah maybe we'll sell herbal tea so now 2525 01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:30,560 i gotta go look up 2526 01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:33,360 mood rings and custom printed dildos 2527 01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:34,000 thanks 2528 01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:39,679 friends uh we're reaching an hour and 45 2529 01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:41,199 minutes and i think that 2530 01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:43,280 now would be a good time to wrap things 2531 01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:44,800 up i definitely want to 2532 01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:47,840 let me just check this paypal make sure 2533 01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:50,000 we don't have any donations to shout out 2534 01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:53,520 tonight no we don't 2535 01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,159 no honey no money tonight but it's all 2536 01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:57,520 good friends we keep 2537 01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,080 moving forward i uh am 2538 01:43:06,629 --> 01:43:05,199 really appreciative of everybody that 2539 01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:06,639 has been supporting the show 2540 01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:13,830 please do know that one of the best ways 2541 01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:15,440 that you can support me right now 2542 01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:17,280 is to try to help me get the subscriber 2543 01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:18,880 count up so if you know somebody that 2544 01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:20,719 likes the kind of subjects that we cover 2545 01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,280 and 2546 01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:22,960 most of you in the live chat probably 2547 01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,880 have many friends that do 2548 01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:26,960 uh send them a message send them an 2549 01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:29,199 email say hey this new show is on and 2550 01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:30,719 you would probably like it 2551 01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:33,040 go subscribe check it out i would 2552 01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,990 kb i am vicariously searching for peppa 2553 01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:46,800 pig 2554 01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:51,360 four-year-old plays that constantly 2555 01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:53,520 i hate it i hate it and then you know 2556 01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:54,400 what he does 2557 01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:58,320 he leaves it on right he leaves on 2558 01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:01,760 he'll leave on peppa pig and they walk 2559 01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:02,800 away from the tv 2560 01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:05,119 and i'm like in the kitchen listening to 2561 01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:07,199 peppa pig screaming 2562 01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:08,560 and i don't know that he hasn't even 2563 01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:11,360 been watching it for a half hour 2564 01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:20,070 yes friends so we're going to wrap 2565 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:22,080 things up here i want to thank each and 2566 01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,840 every one of you for joining me tonight 2567 01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,600 i almost didn't do the show tonight 2568 01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:27,280 because we had some technical issues but 2569 01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,480 i'm glad we worked it out 2570 01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:30,639 i'm sorry it was a little late tonight 2571 01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:31,520 um 2572 01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:35,119 yeah friends until next time until 2573 01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:38,480 next time i believe that there will be a 2574 01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:38,880 show 2575 01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:42,080 tomorrow night at 10 p.m i am going to 2576 01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:43,920 try something crazy this week 2577 01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:46,480 and i'm going to try to do a show i'm 2578 01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,080 going to try to do five shows next 2579 01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:50,480 week that may or may not be possible we 2580 01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:52,000 may be going to the cabin 2581 01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:54,080 and here's the deal when i'm at the 2582 01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:56,080 cabin now my wife is bringing 2583 01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:58,880 guests and there's guests in the trailer 2584 01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,199 so i can't use that to stream 2585 01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:03,199 my mother-in-law is in the cabin as well 2586 01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:04,800 with the children and my wife 2587 01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:07,760 and there's really only two rooms and i 2588 01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:09,280 don't know if we'll be able to do a show 2589 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:10,800 maybe i could do it outside but then i 2590 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:13,600 got to worry about bears 2591 01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:16,800 so yeah you know i'm doing my best to 2592 01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:17,440 try to 2593 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:22,560 sometimes that's not always possible 2594 01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:26,080 but until next time folks my name is 2595 01:45:54,970 --> 01:45:27,760 stephen cambion 2596 01:46:45,950 --> 01:46:03,740 [Music] 2597 01:47:10,840 --> 01:46:45,960 [Applause] 2598 01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:10,850 [Music] 2599 01:47:41,090 --> 01:47:12,910 [Applause] 2600 01:47:42,090 --> 01:47:41,100 [Music] 2601 01:48:01,830 --> 01:47:42,100 [Applause]